Comment and thread in question: https://lemmy.world/comment/23138585

Ban from that community, [email protected]:

Rule 1 of said community: Be civil and nice.

Rule 1 of said instance: No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.

I was clearly not bigoted in any manner, and I believe more civil than the way I was treated, was it the Code of Conduct? Excerpts:

Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude.

Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.

I think I was kind with the people I disagreed with, even if they could not be in return, yet those comments (some including ableist slurs) remain. I think this is enough to demonstrate it is merely a difference in ideology which motivated the ban. Well, bans, because it seems they copied and pasted the same ban in all the communities they have access to:

It’s not a general lemmy.ml ban, just those in particular.

I understand this kind of behavior in safe space communities that don’t want outsiders bellyaching about the pragmatism of electoral politics, but that’s not the case in any of the communities I’ve been banned from, nor is it a part of the instance rules or CoC.

PTB or triggered shitlib? Not an exclusive or, of course.

  • lime!@feddit.nu
    0·
    2 months ago

    did you also see the opinionated parts? if you enable the default filter list piefed hides all meme and 4chan communities and enables built in image recognition specifically to prevent people from posting greentexts. it also keeps an internal tally of user “quality” based on what communities they post in.

    truly everything is political.

    • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      yeah, I don’t really consider those to be the “problems” others do, especially since instance admins can simply disable those features.

      • lime!@feddit.nu
        1·
        2 months ago

        of course they can, just like how the ml admins can choose not to have their weird swearing filter that nobody else uses. but it’s still in there and that’s what they thought communities wanted. eg, that’s what they wanted for their community. point being, no codebase is neutral and i don’t know the intent of the piefed dev either.

        • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          ok, but, again, I don’t view what the piefed dev did as problematic. the lemmy devs? I do find them problematic for many reasons, including the ones I’ve already mentioned.

          so, enough with the whataboutisms

          • lime!@feddit.nu
            01·
            2 months ago

            it’s not a counter-accusation trying to paint one in a better light than the other. i want none of it, and the fact that the bias is apparently okay as long as the politics are aligned feels pretty shit.

            • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              To be fair, there’s a bit of apples-to-oranges here. Rimu’s stuff here that you’ve mentioned is closer to a general ‘anti-slop’ mentality than being directed to a specific persuasion, at least in the things you referred to. Having it set by default that upvotes in meme communities don’t boost your reputation, or blocking greentext isn’t something that specifically aligns with a leftist, centrist or rightist template - if that makes sense.

              Now, if you want to refer to the default defederation of hexbear, lemmygrad - then sure. That could be argued.

              • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
                1·
                2 months ago

                Now, if you want to refer to the default defederation of hexbear, lemmygrad - then sure. That could be argued.

                But not without defending both of those instances, and you’d be pretty hard-pressed to find a rational argument for that.

            • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              it’s not a counter-accusation trying to paint one in a better light than the other

              That’s exactly what it is, especially considering your next sentence

              What the piefed dev does is include a couple of optional features which can be easily disabled. Just from what I mentioned here, what the Lemmy devs do amounts to their ongoing behavior on their instance and in their communities. The only option is to simply block them and their instance. It’s a matter of who they are. they are definitely not the same thing.

              false equivalence

              and the fact that the bias is apparently okay as long as the politics are aligned feels pretty shit.

              Except when you do the exact same thing by objecting to what the piefed dev does, but it’s OK when the Lemmy devs do it?

              Or just that I have an opinion that you disagree with?

              Either or both, I think that’s pretty shit

    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      piefed hides all meme and 4chan communities

      Fake news

      built in image recognition specifically to prevent people from posting greentexts

      Based

      keeps an internal tally of user “quality” based on what communities they post in.

      Fake news.

      I’m a PieFed admin and I’ve read some of the source code, ask Me anything.

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        It’s also fake.

        It’s a misunderstanding of a setting admins can enable that makes it so meme communities don’t add to your karma. That way, you can’t karma farm by posting memes.

        I’m a piefed admin and My instance has that setting disabled because I like memes.