“the West is everything they told you China was”
by Deaglan O’Mulrooney in the spectacle on Substack
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“So the next time you hear a Western politician condemn China for silencing dissent, ask them about Hüseyin Doğru. Ask them about the BBC cutting ‘free Palestine’ from a BAFTA speech. Ask them about the pregnant woman body-slammed in Amsterdam and the demonstrators being brutalised in Berlin. Ask them about von der Leyen’s heckler being arrested after she joked that in Russia, he would be arrested. The West is everything they told you China was. The only difference is that the Empire has better public relations”
https://open.substack.com/pub/thespectaclemag/p/the-west-is-everything-they-told
#Press #SocialMedia #UK #EU #Surveillance #Censorship #Sanctions #AbuseOfPower #PoliceViolence #PoliceBrutality #Netherlands #Germany #Hypocrisy #Gaslighting #VonDerLeyen #BBC #MSM
For everybody who does not know Hüseyin Dogru: He’s a russian propagandist, who worked for RT and was sanctioned by the EU for creating a propaganda network:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hüseyin_Doğru
So yeah, this post also looks like propaganda shit.
Even if wasn’t, it’s fucking whataboutism, a poster fucking boy. I didn’t even care to search the details of this. Is there anyone who like fall for shit like this?
Yes, there are problems on the west. Doesn’t mean it’s OK. It means people here have to do something about things, likewise people elsewhere ought to work through shit at their homes too.
ask them about Hüseyin Doğru.
The famous Russian propagandist? What about him? He’s suffering the consequences for being a Russian propaganda asset.
Ask them about the pregnant woman body-slammed in Amsterdam
The one that wasn’t actually in Amsterdam? The one that had nothing to do with a hospital at all, and was in fact about a response to a threat of violence and destruction? That one?
Ask them about von der Leyen’s heckler being arrested after she joked that in Russia, he would be arrested.
The guy who kept trying to shout over an invited speaker was removed from the area, and he then suffered the horrible horrible punishment of being fined 110 euros. Yes, truly on par with china simply dissapearing dissidents forever.
Not trying to defend any of the things you listed, I’m not sure though how awful behaviour by side A absolves side B of it’s own share of awful behaviour.
It shouldn’t be a matter of ‘West vs. East’ when, rightfully, calling out awful things.
It should be about the people in power who allow all these atrocities to happen, or even want them to happen, being held accountable. No matter if they are American, European, Chinese or whatever.
Shit just needs to stop.
At least one of the things he said never happened, two others are intentionally misleading, and the final two are so vague they’re pretty much always true.
I’ll gladly take issue with them.
Remember what happened last night in Sweden :p
The difference, of course, is that Russia, China, Iran, Cuba, Veneuzela, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, Bolivia, Haiti, and so many other countries never actually look at the bad behavior on Side A and said “and that’s why we need to bomb the USA’s civilian infrastructure, foment and support violent coups with money and weapons and training, fund and arm and train criminal gangs and drug cartels”. Only one country in the world, it seems, gets to look at bad behavior and then commit decades of mass murder, war crimes, atrocities, and environmental destruction and then be told “well, every country does bad things, but at least we have the Jester’s Privilege of impotently complaining about it here”
Ah, the good ol’ whataboutism.
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Sure but they do at least have that one fine & admirable characteristic in common – that neither of those two leaders were actually elected directly by the people they represent. (Although it is debatable whether EU citizens as a whole are even the entity that VdL actually *represents*.)
