VeganPizza69 Ⓥ

we need to put it in the drinking water. :)

holy shit, yeah.

It’s hard to be precise about the causality with so much subjectivity.

It’s great to see the “Development steps tho” argument fail this way. I hope they use it to shame the others.

Others have pointed out that RCP8.5 was never particularly plausible, and have criticized claims that the move away from using these scenarios reflects actual progress on reducing emissions.

We can just stop there.

I personally consider RCP8.5 as a scenario which might be useful to think of in the context of accelerated warming or emissions from triggering some tipping points. Modeling chaos is not practical.

Good. People really underestimate how dangerous advertising is and what a low hanging fruit it is.

Let’s just say that it wouldn’t be the first time that populations who are used to eating a lot of animal products suddenly became healthier.

I don’t know who that is.

My statement was in general with these famous non-animal burgers. To see that, you need to see a trend line over changes over time.

Some are holding onto more sodium. That’s on them, but if you think you can do that math on how bad that sodium is vs the rest of the factors, good luck.

Yeah. So much work to turn soybean cream into a solid block, and then people turn that beautiful block into tiny bits.

The plastic is stuff is even weirder when you realize how useful it is – meanwhile most of that oil is turned into fuel to be burned away.

The whole production process from growing plants down to delivering it to the last commercial freezer.

Here’s a podcast introduction to this (several episodes): https://www.tabledebates.org/fueltofork

After making tofu, something about shredded tofu really saddens me.

Don’t worry, all animal products will be going up in price a lot as a result of the oil and fertilizer crisis going on now. The real question is if the planting plans are getting shifted to food crops or if there will continue to be more feed crops, which will lead to famines in the poorer parts of the world thanks to how the markets work.

Yep. The NOVA clowns can piss off, vegans were talking about whole foods long before they started the moral panic about UPFs.

What am I paying for? Marketing? Corporate profits?

They want to make money by targeting the smaller market of people with more money. It’s marketing strategy, usually tied to “wellness” - which is a super huge market (almost entirely grifters.)

Yeah… on a black market while getting E.coli, Salmonella and tape worms.

Those are older recipes. Always read the ingredients tho.

Try different recipes, you’ll find one.

https://sixhungryfeet.com/16-tofu-recipes-to-convert-a-meat-lover/

A distinction without a difference. Let’s subsidize legumes and plant-based products to the same level animal-based parts are subsidized and see which one is cheaper.