• degen@midwest.social
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    15 days ago

    Technically yes, but there’s a lot more to it lol

    It’s a bit like if you separated two twins and raised them in isolation to study nature vs nurture

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      14 days ago

      So, there are a couple of things. Here is where I push up my glasses and say “well–ahem–”

      First, true, BSD is not itself Unix. That specific OS (which began with the PDP-7 Operating System in the late 1960s) really only existed until the late 80s or early 90s, when Bell Labs stopped working on it.

      However, it is literally Unix-based. The first version of BSD was forked (as we’d call it today) from the Research Unix source code at UC Berkeley. Since then, the various BSD derivatives and distros have all iterated upon or forked from that initial Unix code. I don’t think any are officially registered as SUS systems (but there are only a handful that are), which means that a pedant would say that BSD is technically “Unix-like.”

      But it is based on Unix, it’s a part of the Unix family, just like Windows 11 is part of the NT family. MacOS is also part of the Unix family (I think it might be or used to have been SUS-registered, actually). Linux isn’t, and I think I remember hearing that Torvalds didn’t even use the Research Unix source code to write the Linux kernel originally, but it does follow a lot of the SUS spec and so is definitely Unix-like.

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        14 days ago

        Torvalds was inspired by Minix (which was in turn inspired by UNIX) but didn’t follow Tannenbaum’s micro-kernel model.

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        14 days ago

        We got a historian over here! Lol Twins is a bit strong as a descriptor but the spirit of it might be apt enough.

        I wish I had learned more about BSD before getting so ingrained in Linux. Not because one is “better” or anything. They’re just two different worlds. I’m not sure I have the bandwidth to explore it the way I’d like to, like I did with Linux.

        But who knows, it’s just one step more than all the distro and setup hopping I’ve done over the years.

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      14 days ago

      In a strictly semantic way it is technically true; It is the basic building block of what later became the building block of macos.

      Responded to the wrong person.


      What I meant to write here was: I’ve used both linux and freebsd, and nature vs nature holds true, I th8nk. But I am unsure which one is which.

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        14 days ago

        I didn’t mean that either results specifically from nature or nurture, but that there’s a lot of nuance between the two that makes me think of that kind of “forbidden experiment”.

        It’s the same fabric as any human culture, I suppose, which is endlessly fascinating.