Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Happy Halloween, fellow sneerers!)

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    2 hours ago

    I saw a slop ad hanging on a fence today, and I’m in half a mind to buy some spray paint just so I can write “SLOP” over it

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    4 hours ago

    https://www.todayintabs.com/p/eternal-black-october

    The problem with A.I. defense is the same asymmetry attackers have always had against defenders. After a hotel bombing in Brighton, England in October, 1984 that failed to kill Margaret Thatcher, the Irish Republican Army put out a statement that said “Today, we were unlucky. But remember we have only to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always.“ As it turned out, Margaret Thatcher was lucky always, but there’s no reason to believe the rest of us will be. If an A.I. hack attempt works one time out of a thousand, that’s a fantastic success rate. If your A.I. sysop “secures” your server by deleting the production database and all the backups one time out of a thousand… well. Who’s gonna be first to sign up for those odds? Roll the dice! Apparently they always come up four.

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    5 hours ago

    Oh here’s a fun scenario: FAANG stocks are correcting down and now there’s concern Anthropic will have timed their IPO perfectly such that the investors make out great and the employees have to deal with very much less liquid stock than when it triggered (leading to a massive tax bill they might not be able to cover)

    So…

    Roko’s Taxilisk.

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    13 hours ago

    Uh-oh, renowned everyman Sam Altman opened his mouth again.

    Local inference is a terrible allocation of scarce resources.

    A lot of people want local inference, and somehow they assume that the problem is solved now because we have open-source models, we’re going to be able to run them on our computers, and so we’re not going to need all the stuff in the data centre

    but from a global allocation perspective, actually it’s quite terrible to have everybody, like, have a bunch of the world’s limited supply of DRAM sitting in their own computer and being used five percent of the time

    you want maximum utilisation in the cloud if you’re trying to deal with this very supply-constrained environment, somehow many people’s intuition is the opposite of that

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      I’ll donate my RAM to SAlty if he comes to collect it in person, and only if I can deliver it straight to his dome

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      12 hours ago

      Not that Altman’s company is ahead in the AI coding race, but everyone’s PCs will still need increasing amounts of DRAM to be able to run the next generation of slop-coded JavaScript apps.

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      Much better for RAM to be sitting behind a network hop with 100 milliseconds of latency amirite?

      if you’re trying to deal with this very supply-constrained environment,

      We’re all trying to find the guy who did this .jpg

      Edit: also lol at the unstated implication that no one should ever want to use RAM for anything besides getting blathered at by a chatbot.

      The CEO claimed that AI will potentially be able to create something as important as the transistor, or discover major efficiency gains

      Did anyone ever fall for this ridiculous argument when it was used for “uhmm actually the massive datacenter buildout is great for global warming because chatbots will chat at us how to make better solar panels or something”?

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      16 hours ago

      Notable customers who run Claude Code and Cursor on laptops include Binance, amongst thousands of others.

      That would be soooooo funny.

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        14 hours ago

        Now all it needs is that the engineer at Binance who reportedly got hacked also got his NFTs stolen.

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      15 hours ago

      Excuse me? What happened to the mythical cybersecurity abilities of Claude Mythos? Physician, cure thyself!

      Anthropic has not informed customers, and the malicious version was silently deleted the backdoored version without telling anybody.

      Now we see Anthropic’s attitude towards security when the incident does not make for good marketing. Also, considering Binance was just hacked for a massive $3B in stablecoins, and this backdoor allowed remote access to developer laptops, I have a feeling these things are connected. If that is true, then this is by far the worst cybersecurity incident involving AI, worse than even the much ballyhooed PHP2Shell.

      Edit: From Molly White’s article

      Binance later wrote that their “initial investigation suggests that the security incident may involve a compromised DevOps engineer’s laptop”, which allowed an attacker to “submit unauthorized withdrawal transactions.”

      Okay, now I am really suspicious that these things are connected.

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        14 hours ago

        Imagine being a NK hacker rooting machines via Claude and then you discover you are on an Binance engineers machine.

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      15 hours ago

      Did someone put too much ketamine in Yud’s coffee or are the chatbots all friendly and safe now?

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        16 hours ago

        Apparently they mean @grok as in you tag the chatbot to use your post as a prompt which I guess is a thing the nazi site pioneered, other bots are also available.

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    1 day ago

    The Internet’s emotional support smut is offline:

    We estimate that service restoration for #AO3 will take around 2 weeks but it could be up to 4 weeks. We are hopeful that we will be able to bring the site back up in a degraded state sooner. If that does happen, there may be times when the site has to be brought down temporarily until this is fully resolved. Please stay tuned for further info.

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      15 hours ago

      Holy shit, that’s a long downtime. Hoping everything will be fine. The internet would be a worse place without the Archive.

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      16 hours ago

      An update at the same URL:

      Earlier today, we detected evidence of a security incident on AO3. We are still in the early stages of response to this security incident and determining its scope. AO3 will remain down while we continue investigating and addressing what has been found so far. However, we want to make some things clear:

      First, no AO3 data has been deleted. All your works, bookmarks, kudos, etc., are safe.

      Second, while we currently don’t believe that the user database was stolen, we are also unable to rule it out. The AO3 database contains account information that may include your username, email address, IP address, and a hashed version of your password.

      We use industry-standard techniques for storing passwords in a scrambled form that cannot easily be reversed. Even so, no hashing method can fully protect a weak or reused password from being cracked. As a precaution, we recommend that you change your passwords on any other sites where you use the same password as on AO3.

      AO3 does not collect real names, so none could be exposed. Additionally, our donor information is held in an entirely separate system and is never linked to AO3, so that data has also not been exposed.

      We will update everyone as our investigation continues; we may be unable to respond to individual inquiries from users. Please keep an eye on our official outlets for updates. Our next update will be posted when we have further information available.

      Our current expectation is that AO3 will be down for a minimum of two weeks; however, it could take up to four weeks. During that time, we may be able to bring the site back up in a degraded state, meaning that not all features will be available and/or the site may be read-only. If we are able to do that, please be aware that we might have to bring the site back down unexpectedly as part of our recovery efforts. We will keep you in the loop for any developments

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      Wonder how many of their users have transitioned to beating off to artisanal probabilistic LLM smut.

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          Yeah, I’ve read a few stories in the past year or two that updated suspiciously rapidly and weren’t terribly well written. But overall the culture there is against AI generation.

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            Speaking in very general terms, the combination of wanting a community, writing out of abstruse passion and appreciating writing done out of abstruse passion make for an anti-AI blend. The balance of inevitable slop and hostility against inevitable slop tilts towards the latter.

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          I really hope so, but tbh my immediate thought was that they’d all be on “r/myboyfriendisai”

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      The boosters hope that the AI will replace mathematicians, but they are running into an awfully inconvenient fact: theorems and proofs are useless without people who care enough to understand them and make meaning from them.

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        Nah, my computer can totally do math on its own. Wanna see?

        cos(4)

        Bam!

        72

        Get mathed on!

        4E183

        See, your human brain can’t even do math like that.

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      To complexity theorists, this is an extremely funny situation; I bet OpenAI started by asking the bot about P vs NP and they got the worst-possible result, a useless and unexpected refutation of a conjecture. To be clear, I don’t trust Lean or OpenAI, so I don’t yet accept this result, but I hear Ryan Williams and Russell Impagliazzo are hand-checking the proof and I do trust them.

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      Christ Almighty just @ me next time. The other element of this dynamic is that non-technical managers or users, who would previously have heard about these vulnerabilities from our IT security group who are equipped with our specific context, are now hearing it from OpenAI’s marketing copy.