• psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 days ago

    Delusions, man. Most trans people I know, even IRL, are anarchists or communists and liberals certainly aren’t pro-Palestinian.

    You’re just upset nobody is falling for this manipulation you use to justify all the horrific actions done by liberals as “the lesser evil.”

    Not supporting liberals != supporting conservatives. Someone who refuses to support liberals because their party committing a genocide is not guilty of supporting the conservatives. It’s the fucking liberal party whose fault it is that they lost, not their own voter-base that found them repulsive, that’s just fucking backwards.

    Like actually no, the long term lesser evil is not supporting liberals. If they know this strategy works of being awful, but at least better than conservatives they will keep going to the right. The genocide will be permanent, then they’ll change their mind on trans people, then immigrants, and each step along the way you could make the argument that they were the better option compared to conservatives.

    Vs. The scenario where nobody supports them if they’re committing genocide. They lose once and we have a conservative administration for a period of time. If voters stick with it, the liberals realize they’re really serious about this and are forced to choose between losing or cutting support for Israel. If they lose again, then next election they would probably be so hated they could break the two party system and a more left wing party could have a legitimate chance of winning.

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      15 days ago

      Congratulations, your solution kills all the trans people. Good job. In a first past the post two party system in virtually every district in the US your choices are democrat and republican and a third party or protest vote is a vote for the winner. We are in an existential fight and republicans just be prevented from holding power by any means necessary. Your feelings about the reality are irrelevant. Any vote not for a Dem is a vote for the Republicans, regardless of your feelings about it. The time for protest votes was the primaries and before the republicans abandoned realpolitik to an ideologically driven death cult. The parties aren’t the same, it’s not both sides, and you’re not a fuckin ally if your principles are more important than harm reduction. The average American is functionally illiterate and that applies to media and political literacy as well as evidenced by people thinking you’re not full of shit. I hope you get to be first in line to feel the consequences of your choices. Because I will be.

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          15 days ago

          So am I. The republicans want to kill me. All of em. A few dems are willing to sacrifice me. Plenty aren’t. The parties aren’t the same and pretending they are does work for MAGA and makes you a MAGAt.

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            15 days ago

            Did you even read what I said? Why must we be dependent on governments to give us rights? Has begging the establishment ever worked for any queer liberation movement?

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              Because unless you’re gonna overthrow the fuckin government you don’t get a choice. But if we all voted in every election for every progressive and stopped the fucking fascists from getting elected we’d get the fuckin rights we deserve but none of you acknowledge the fundamental reality that the options are work within the system to reform the system which is possible, we’ve seen the right wing do it in real time, or some fantasy revolution that magically doesn’t kill us all, so what the fuck are you talking about?

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                15 days ago

                Yes overthrow the government. I was eluding to just idk, trans mutual aid/healthcare instead of relying on the liberals to support us, the basic shit, but overthrowing the government is the end goal, yeah.

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              15 days ago

              Literally all civil rights were gained by operating within the system. Explain how burning everything down doesn’t just kill us all.

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                  15 days ago

                  Civil disobedience and protest is part of the system. That’s how the rights we have got put into law. That’s how it’s always worked here. It’s how the county was started. It’s literally the entire fucking concept of power to the people in this country ya nunpty fuck.

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                    15 days ago

                    The country was started by a literal revolution. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Slavery had to have an actual civil war take place to be abolished.