First: Everyone already knows that there’s no way to consume anything without causing harm to something else. It’s why the definition of veganism includes the phrase “as much as possible” not “entirely”
Second: even if we considered a plant’s life as equally valuable as a pig/chicken/cow’s— eating a vegan diet STILL causes less suffering. When you stop eating animals, you can stop murdering all the plants needed to feed those animals.
So the argument of “what if plants suffer?!?” Is bullshit, and already solved by veganism.
The other user’s thought experiment about lab grown meat is more interesting, but it’s not reality yet, and you’d need to understand the specific process for growing said meat to accurately estimate the potential avenues of suffering.
Yes, a vegan diet reduces harm. So does biking instead of driving. So does making your own clothes instead of buying sweatshop clothes. There are LOTS of ways to reduce the amount of suffering your life causes. I wouldn’t exclude anyone from being a leftist because they don’t do all of those things.
If you’re not doing absolutely everything you can to reduce your impact on the planet to the bare minimum, regardless of your happiness, then you can stop shitting on the rest of us for not adopting your particular form of harm reduction. And to be clear, I’m using “the royal you” here - I don’t know how you, Lemmee, treat the “carnists” in your life. But I certainly can guess how the person who made this meme does - and that person is a hypocrite.
First: Everyone already knows that there’s no way to consume anything without causing harm to something else. It’s why the definition of veganism includes the phrase “as much as possible” not “entirely”
Second: even if we considered a plant’s life as equally valuable as a pig/chicken/cow’s— eating a vegan diet STILL causes less suffering. When you stop eating animals, you can stop murdering all the plants needed to feed those animals.
So the argument of “what if plants suffer?!?” Is bullshit, and already solved by veganism.
The other user’s thought experiment about lab grown meat is more interesting, but it’s not reality yet, and you’d need to understand the specific process for growing said meat to accurately estimate the potential avenues of suffering.
Yes, a vegan diet reduces harm. So does biking instead of driving. So does making your own clothes instead of buying sweatshop clothes. There are LOTS of ways to reduce the amount of suffering your life causes. I wouldn’t exclude anyone from being a leftist because they don’t do all of those things.
If you’re not doing absolutely everything you can to reduce your impact on the planet to the bare minimum, regardless of your happiness, then you can stop shitting on the rest of us for not adopting your particular form of harm reduction. And to be clear, I’m using “the royal you” here - I don’t know how you, Lemmee, treat the “carnists” in your life. But I certainly can guess how the person who made this meme does - and that person is a hypocrite.