• Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    29 days ago

    I understand that, and I understand the overall personal health and societal benefits of reducing meat consumption. I proposed an upcoming alternative that wouldn’t require nearly any plant consumption, still all the power to you for making conscious decisions to reduce the environmental impact of meeting your needs if you practice veganism. Though for this post, what I’m doing here is applying the idea of moral circle expansion to demonstrate that people have different benchmarks to what they care about, which can be just humans, humans and animals, or also including plants and other organisms, to show that OP’s assertion that veganism = leftism is an incorrect blanket statement.

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      29 days ago

      And I’m demonstrating that that’s nonsense. The way to prevent harm to plants is by going vegan. “I won’t go vegan because I don’t want to harm plants” is always a bad faith (or at best uninformed argument).

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        29 days ago

        I’m not saying I won’t or one shouldn’t be vegan because of this, I’m saying the equating of leftism and veganism is wrong because of this.

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          29 days ago

          Nothing is “because of this” because “this” is complete and utter nonsense. How can nonsense prove anything wrong?

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            29 days ago

            You’re free to consider what I wrote as nonsense if you so wish. (Edit: The “simple objective fact” you wrote below I understand to be true as well, so there’s no need for us to argue any further about it.) Have an excellent day.

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              29 days ago

              It’s not that “I consider it to be” nonsense. It is, objectively, nonsense.

              It’s a simple, objective fact that feeding animals to eat causes more harm to plants than just eating plants.