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      What stuff?

      Please show us something, anything.

      Was he weird? Fuck yes. Was he a pedo: acquitted on all accounts. So hell no.

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        I mean you should know better than thinking that pedos being acquitted means something. If we have learned anything from Epstein, its that famous pedos and powerful people like to mingle.

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          Yeah but I’m pretty sure Mculley Culkin has outright denied Jackson did anything sexual to him. I think the guy was just weird and traumatized and later completely doped up all the time.

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    Anyone who thinks Jackson wasn’t a pedophile is willfully blind.

    Being a great artist doesn’t stop you from being a very sick man. His upbringing certainly is an extenuating circumstance, but it doesn’t change the nature of his relationships with young boys.

    Edit: to the people defending him, I put it to you that you are blinded by stardom. If any other man was fascinated with young boys in the same way, you’d think they were extremely weird at best and probably think much worse.

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      Nah I don’t think he did. Two reasons

      Every accusation is super weak and some get walked back. Michael Jackson suffered from toxic masculinity, he wasn’t allowed to play with children because he was a man. Society is the issue there.

      Second reason that sells it, Macaulay Culkin, Hollywood fucked this dude up he’s literally talked about it and he says Michael was legit.

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        Macaulay Culkin saying that nothing happened to him doesn’t mean nothing happend with any other of the young boys.

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      His father was a complete piece of shit and treated him horribly and also he was never really allowed a proper childhood.

      So I have heard some people argue that perhaps he was not a pedophile, but rather just really mentally ill, partly believing to be a kid that just wanted child playmates. Still wrong for an adult to act like this, but perhaps there was no sexual misconduct.

      Not sure what to believe and perhaps I just don’t want him to be a villain, but I would like to hear if there is some concrete evidence.

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      I don’t really care for his music and his behavior was immature at best (all can be chaulked up to his father.) but I’ll believe evidence of his misdeeds when I see it. Every single accusation was walked back and admitted to be pressured by parents or lawyers for an out of court settlement and every investigation, including by the FBI found zero wrong doing. If he had inappropriately touched a child we’d have some evidence about it.

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        Leaving Neverland https://g.co/kgs/8Bqcp49

        I watched this not just with an open mind, but like you and many others here, with the mind that people were colluding to extort money from Jackson. This completely changed my mind.

        I mean, I get it. If one of my favourite artists was accused of being a pedo, I’d defend them and say the claims can’t be proven etc.

        In this case, I think it’s safe to say that whilst he wasn’t a full blown child rapist, that he clearly had an attraction to young boys that went much further than just fantasy.