• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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    1 year ago

    Ye ofc the only alternative the the Stalin regime was stagnation and defeat, clearly nothing else could have possibly have happened…

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            1 year ago

            Again, I’m autistic. I can’t always help myself from replying to goading and disinfo. It’s a waste of time for everyone involved.

            • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.net
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              1 year ago

              your commitment to maintaining a pure idealistic ignorance about 20th century history, in the face of many people much more informed than you doing their best to educate you, does imply a certain tenacity. however, i can’t go as far to say that it’s commendable in any way. you should read some books.

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                1 year ago

                I know I’m impervious to campist propaganda, no need to remind me. It’s because I’ve read enough that I’m like this. Thank you for noticing though.

                • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.net
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                  1 year ago

                  no, i said you’re an ignorant idealist. you are a liberal who gives good anarchists a bad name by posting juvenile shit like this. it’s hard for me to believe you have finished high school. it’s embarrassing to think an adult would act this way habitually. hope it’s fulfilling though, sincerely. it would be a shame for you to spend all this energy on something that leaves you feeling hollow and purposeless.

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                    1 year ago

                    Lol here come the usual tankie insults for any uppity anarchist. We’ve heard it all before fucko, go polish your leader’s bust and dream of leading the vanguard now.

                    But thanks for doing my job in showcasing why “left unity”, isn’t.

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      Why would there need to be an alternative? It was already the best possible version of what could have happened, within the bounds of a crushing siege by the entire capitalist world on one hand, and basic human fallibility on the other. There is no other political leader in history with a higher proportion of correct decisions to mistakes than Stalin, and they were mistakes, as in consequences not intended from actions taken earnestly to protect the people of the USSR - unlike the actual unspeakable atrocities being committed constantly by every single imperialist nation at the time, as well as before and since.

      Even just on its own terms, the USSR was unimaginably more humane than what came before:

      what existed outside of it:

      and what came after:

      This is called the “Eastern Cross” by the way, a demographic phenomenon unique to former nations of the USSR, where the death rate and birth rate suddenly cross over each other in the 90s. It’s way better that this happened, of course, than the USSR being run by “”“authoritarians”“” who would protect their people from sabotage and murder using the necessary amount of violence (that is, still less than their enemies).

      But I forgot, we’re comparing an actual nation that had to actually exist in the dirt and blood of the real world, to the geometrically perfect platonic anarchist society that lives in your head, so I guess I have to concede. I’ll go tell all the communists in the third world to pack it up and disband their organizations and scratch out all the hammers and sickles so you can go tell them how to avoid being assassinated by the CIA the right way.