• PugJesus@piefed.socialM
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    The more you meet and interact with Israelis the more it is hard to believe how openly evil they are. like they will casually accept starving children to death or bombing journalists and humanitarian workers.

    It’s common in authoritarian states for that level of evil to be normalized. But “Death to everyone in an authoritarian state!” is nationalist-campist tripe all the same - or else treating politics with the same mindset as a religious fanatic.

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        … so your response is “no u”?

        Sorry for not being enthusiastic about the concept of genocide as a team sport, regardless of what color you want to wear or who you insist started it first.

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            Their consent is irrelevant; the issue of genociding them is relevant.

            No one asked Nazi Germany if it wanted to be cut up into pieces and occupied, and yet it was moral to do so. Yet that doesn’t mean that genocide would also have been moral, despite the German people undoubtedly being not in favor of that solution either.

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                but no one is advocating for the genocide of Israelis. were just complaining how monstrous they are.

                The genocide and ethnic cleansing of Israelis is constantly brought up even in the fucking Fediverse.

                Not only that, but in this very comment section:

                What’s the sound of 100 million Israeli’s dying? I heard it sounds like applause, but we should probably find out just to be sure

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                  obviously that’s an exaggeration. there’s like 7 million Israelis.

                  And the biggest material issue right now is the material real genocide that Israel is conductor right now, not a theoretical one against the perpetrators.

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                    obviously that’s an exaggeration. there’s like 7 million Israelis.

                    So if someone said “What’s the sound of 100 million Palestinians dying? I heard it sounds like applause, but we should probably find out just to be sure” your response would be… similar?

                    And the biggest material issue right now is the material real genocide that Israel is conductor right now, not a theoretical one against the perpetrators.

                    “No one is advocating for it!”

                    “Well, they are, but it doesn’t matter because there are other issues which are more important.”

                    Maybe genocide advocacy is fucking bad in general, regardless of which one is more pressing at the moment? Sorry that I don’t give a free pass to genocide advocacy because it’s against Bad Ethnicity?

                    And genocide ‘against the perpetrators’? What the fuck? This is exactly the kind of bullshit nationalist-minded fuckwittery that leads to genocide in the first place.

                    I’m sorry I don’t believe in ethnic fucking guilt.