Shariah law calls for the stoning to death of gay men.
“But you would need to do it in public to reach the 4 witnesses requirement” is NOT good enough, because these reasons fuel stigma that leads to lynching and hate crime. If the whole “Lut” thing and the aforementioned precedent in the Hadith didn’t exist, there wouldn’t be this state-sanctioned execution/imprisonment of gay and lesbian people (“but you can just be trans” is frankly bullshit and is downplaying the severity of the issue). Without the religious baggage of Islam there wouldn’t be social stigma on anywhere near the scale and that would drastically improve life expectancy for queer people.
You say “as long as that sin is self-indulgent” but this isn’t how homosexuality is treated historically. It’s viewed as a plague that would spread through the masses if allowed and they assert the need to step down on it (as is evident given by the fact that there are exactly 0 countries that legalized homosexuality and have hate crime protections).
It’s not just “not ideal”, it’s downright barbaric and disgusting.
West Europe, Scandinavia and Canada may like a word with you. Hell, even the US was “okay” w.r.t. queer rights before trump.
Judaism and Christianity both share the passage of Gemorrah and Seldom, none of the Abrahamic faiths are inherently queer affirming, only fringe minority subsections of those communities are.
Shariah law calls for the stoning to death of gay men.
“But you would need to do it in public to reach the 4 witnesses requirement” is NOT good enough, because these reasons fuel stigma that leads to lynching and hate crime. If the whole “Lut” thing and the aforementioned precedent in the Hadith didn’t exist, there wouldn’t be this state-sanctioned execution/imprisonment of gay and lesbian people (“but you can just be trans” is frankly bullshit and is downplaying the severity of the issue). Without the religious baggage of Islam there wouldn’t be social stigma on anywhere near the scale and that would drastically improve life expectancy for queer people.
You say “as long as that sin is self-indulgent” but this isn’t how homosexuality is treated historically. It’s viewed as a plague that would spread through the masses if allowed and they assert the need to step down on it (as is evident given by the fact that there are exactly 0 countries that legalized homosexuality and have hate crime protections).
It’s not just “not ideal”, it’s downright barbaric and disgusting.
West Europe, Scandinavia and Canada may like a word with you. Hell, even the US was “okay” w.r.t. queer rights before trump.
Judaism and Christianity both share the passage of Gemorrah and Seldom, none of the Abrahamic faiths are inherently queer affirming, only fringe minority subsections of those communities are.