I’ve found that a good way to check for actual tolerance in a group is how they treat their furries.

Also, the furries make the internet work. plz. I need the furry hacking power in the world.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    1 year ago

    So I wrote a rant about a month ago (November 18th) about my observations regarding furries as a controversy. Curiously, we got some responses from people who were ready to dismiss furries with language akin to dismissing gays (or dismissing blacks).

    Hopefully this link works correctly.

    Someone even requested Please don’t compare your love for cartoon animals to being lgbt which smacked to me of please don’t compare your desire to be a girl with my desire to love a man even though the mainstream is uncomfortable with all of these groups and is willing to let the white power movement throw rocks at them, or stuff them into concentration camps detention centers. That is why LGBT+ all the other groups united, not because they all like the same stuff, but because they’re all systemically oppressed by the identity politics sects.

    Anyway, some of the points:\

    • Most fur enthusiasts are not furverts (people who like furry and also like kink, but not necessarily together) and yiffers (people who deeply and intensely mix the fur stuff and the sex stuff). And yet, when we think of the furry community, we expect them all be in the yiffing pit rutting like bunnies, when most of them just liked Looney Tunes and Tiny Toon Adventures.
    • The most telling moment was conservatives on the news talking about schools having litter boxes in the bathrooms for kids who identify as feline. That’s essentially blood libel for furries, a vicious rumor meant to sow hatred for the group while simultaneously sowing fear of schools that are aware of trans kids and want them to grow up with less trauma. But this indicates that yes, Furries are an at risk minority that the white power movement has on their short-list of enemies-within.
    • It’s been observed by reviewers and curators of porn (those who look at a variety of flavors of porn) that furry porn is restricted more than other kinds. VISA (yes, the financial and payment service provider) will not process transactions with porn featuring non-human genitals, which is… strangely specific and an odd threshold delineator for indecency / obscenity. A lot of porn providers won’t consider furry porn content at all, even though in the 1990s there were some pretty famous adult dramas featuring porn that were about anthros.
    • The Freefall webcomic (still active since 1998) is a science fiction comic about space culture, robots and science, and features ONE (1) anthro, a genetically engineered wolf, and is regarded as a furry comic, and has been excluded from Wikipedia due to lack of notoriety (It has a very large if nerdy following.) I guess because we sometimes like to label things based on first impressions?
    • lugal@sopuli.xyz
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      1 year ago

      porn featuring non-human genitals

      That’s where you lost me. It’s not strangely specific but about animal and bestiality (to differentiate the act from the zoophile preference). Pretty sure they have other restrictions as well (violence, minors, …)

      Furries on the other hand are – at the end of the day – humans (with human genitals). To be clear: I’m explicitly not equating furry with bestiality. I’m not even equating zoophilia with bestiality because I don’t think everyone acts on these feelings. I’m just confused why you are offended that porn including animals is prohibited when furries are humans. I’m not sure what anthros are tho.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        Anthros are characters that are somewhere between a given animal and human.

        But to me this raises an interesting supposition:

        Narnia features animals with human intellects, such as Phillip, the horse or Mr. and Mrs. Beaver who were part of the underground railroad and contacts for the resistance. And there was Mr. Fox who they wouldn’t fully trust because he was related too closely to the White Witch’s wolves.

        Now imagine someone were to write a Narnia fanfic about a romance between a beaver and a fox. It’s quite dramatic, since the Beaver clan is social conservative as it is, and think folk should keep to their species, and foxes wily like coyotes and can’t be trusted. But the beaver girl loves her foxy beau and he seems to reciprocate despite any dispositions otherwise, and the couple considers eloping.

        Is that bestiality, or rather is it wrong the way bestiality is wrong?

        If not, then its not the genitalia that are the problem, its the capacity to give informed consent.

        (Not that US society believes in informed consent regarding anything non-sexual such as large purchases, leases or political decisions, but that’s a different rant.)