• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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    Explanation From Original OP:

    One of the earliest critiques (of 'Baby it’s Cold Outside) came from Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian writer whose work influenced modern Sunni Islamism and who went on to become a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Upon visiting Greeley, Colo., in 1949, Mr. Qutb wrote angrily about a church dance where the minister dimmed the lights and went to the gramophone to put on “Baby, It’s Cold Outside.”

    The ‘Father’ waited until he saw people getting into the rhythm of that erotic song,” Mr. Qutb wrote in an article for an Egyptian magazine.

    The NYT. Other stuff:

    Qutb frequently described a college dance where “the room convulsed with the feverish music”. He was disturbed by the intermingling of the sexes, noting, “Dancing naked legs filled the hall, arms draped around the waists, chests met chests, lips met lips”.

    Qutb was shocked to observe similar social mixing and physical contact occurring inside church spaces, which he viewed as a loss of religious morality.

    He claimed American women were “well acquainted with [their] body’s seductive capacity”.

    He wrote that women used their bodies “from their lips and legs to their curves” to manipulate men, transforming basic interactions into transactional, animal-like behavior.

    In his theological works, such as In the Shade of the Qur’an, Qutb emphasized that women’s true nature is suited to nurture, and that the “laxness” of Western individualism destroyed the traditional family unit.

    He was a major leader, philosopher, and martyr of the Muslim Brotherhood, and his writings were hugely influential in the rise of modern Islamism generally, and Al Qaeda specifically.

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      his writings were hugely influential in the rise of modern Islamism generally, and Al Qaeda specifically.

      Three thousand 1400 years of beautiful tradition, from Al Kwarzami to Moungi Bawendi – ruined by one fucking asshole YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I’M LIVING IN THE ****ING PAST!

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        All it takes is one loud asshole to snowball movements that ruin shit for millions of people.

        ‘fun’ fact - evangelical Christians in the US were fairly apolitical even as recent as the 1970s.

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          Politically neutral as in the crowds were apolitical, or politically neutral in that evangelicals could be found amongst a wide spectrum of republicans and democrats?

          If you mean the latter (which I think you do), I think that a big part of that would be the stereotypical “Southern Democrat”; which is to say that they were still pretty conservative.

          (Apologies if your image has an explainer on this, its not loading for me).

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            Politically neutral as in the crowds were apolitical, or politically neutral in that evangelicals could be found amongst a wide spectrum of republicans and democrats?

            Both. Carter, for example, was memorably an evangelical; but also, even major evangelical orgs like the Southern Baptist Convention expressed support on issues like abortion rights before the current state of ultra-fucked behavior came around.

            If you mean the latter (which I think you do), I think that a big part of that would be the stereotypical “Southern Democrat”; which is to say that they were still pretty conservative.

            Most Southern Democrats were evangelicals, but most evangelicals weren’t Southern Democrats. It’s important to remember that mainstream Protestantism only dominated in New England, the Rust Belt, and the West Coast - vast swathes of the American Midwest and West have traditionally been evangelical, but vote in a way that was more-or-less either liberal or were viable swing-demographics.

            Not only that, but Appalachia has pretty much always been deeply religious in the evangelical tradition… but up until the 90s remained reliably liberal-voting, even in elections like '68.

            (Apologies if your image has an explainer on this, its not loading for me).

            Nah, just a classic “I wonder if this [gun] is loaded” (puts the gun in his mouth, click, click, click; disappointed look) “No.”