• someacnt@sh.itjust.works
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    But I am causing so much suffering to the society that hates me, that it is likely more suffering than I would cause to my family by suicide. If you sum up the suffering, suicide is net gain. Hence, it is morally right for me to kill myself. Too selfish to commit, though.

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      To society, your existence is inconsequential. To your family though, your existence is paramount. An individual suicide has almost no effect on most of society, but has a tragic and lifelong impact on everyone you care about.

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          Almost nobody is thinking about you enough to warrant hating you. People have their own lives, their own insecurities and their own delusions. The only people who would ever have made a strong opinion about you are your friends and family, and friends you will make in the future. Focus on that, because I guarantee they will care most about anything you do.

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          So much in life can change. Life is long. A decade away could be a whole new life for you, one where you no longer feel this way. Even if you feel this is never going to happen for you, all I can say is I felt the same. Then decades pass and I worked on every part of my life until I only had kind people around me. I struggled with suicide ideation from 8 years old to 36/37 years old. And then, one day without me noticing, it just stopped. Because I kicked all the mean folk out, and surrounded my life with good. I learned to accepted myself, flaws and all. There is always tomorrow.

          I fed the squirrls peanuts I bought just for them this morning. Its love. Give love, get love. Life gonna beat the shit outta you, but one day it could be better. I have one friend, and three close family members, one of which I popped out myself so idk if that counts. Less people, but good people.

          My step father would been happy I offed myself, I never wanted to give him satisfaction. Go for spite, find ur spite and draw hope.

          I dont hate you, so go on and please keep exsisting.

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      You are wrong. Your father may hate your actions but he does not hate you the person. If you take some steps to turn it around he would be rooting you on (even if he does a shit job of expressing it)

      Your story isn’t done.

      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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        Making a reply this confrontational is probably doing more harm than good. Cookie-cutter replies don’t help, you need to actually tailor the response to people’s needs.

        Also, sometimes parents are completely terrible people. I have a grandmother that only sees people as things to manipulate. She doesn’t care about her kids apart from how they affect her image, because she’s a Trump-level narcissist. Making claims that could easily be wrong also hurts your case

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      “Society” hates you? Then suicide would only be a net gain if you cared about everyone’s feelings equally. Fuck the bigoted mouthbreathers that would cheer to see you dead, every day you survive despite the odds is a tiny middle finger.

      Pissing in Jeff Bezos’ morning coffee would probably make him unhappy as well, yet I’d gladly do it and not feel bad about it. Respect and tolerance are an opt-in thing. If someine denies it to others, they don’t deserve it themselves

      Besides, recognize the symptoms of depression. It is a valid health issue, and it is hard to examine your brain using your own brain. But it helps to make an effort to mentally separate thoughts that would make no sense to an un-depressed person.

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      nobody cares about you that much. nobody hates you.

      you hate yourself. that’s what it is. because you don’t feel you live up to the idea of what you are supposed to be.