Her response: "I find it really shameful that there’s a group of media outlets and people who are willing to spread gossip,” she said in the informal, selfie-style video where she paced along a road. “No marriage is perfect, and I don’t want a perfect marriage, I want my marriage.”

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    Ehh… My biggest fear with Platner isn’t the Nazi tattoo. I am willing to believe the average American is ignorant of history enough to accidentally get a Totenkopf and just think it’s some pirate shit or something.

    My biggest concern is that he has a very similar background and contrarian attitude as Fetterman. Rich kid contrarians pretending to be working class should kinda raise everyone’s hackles.

    Plus, the reasoning behind his political beliefs is pretty questionable. He was supposedly a protestor of the war who then joined the military to do good from the inside? Then became radicalized because of his service, but reenlisted in the marines, then again in the guard, and once more as a security contractor?

    It would make more sense if he was from a working class background, some people don’t really have much opportunity and the military is their ticket out of poverty. But the guys parents sent him to a prep school that cost 70k a year. He didn’t have to go to war for college, he had options and continually chose to participate in a system he claims he hated.

    I don’t think he’s going to be a worse option than Collins, but I fear there’s going to be a lot of people on the left are going to be disappointed in his tenure if he wins.

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      One of platners long time friends has written a book about octover 7 and israel’s respinse being good and justified, my sticking point, after the repete military service anyway. here’s the guys website https://sethfrantzman.com/

      platner used to feature in photos on Frantzmans social media but they were deleted when people noticed them (there’s also a blackwater mercenary photo in the backgroun lol)

      if consensual flirty messages between two adults bring this guy down i’m going to cry

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      Thanks for this I knew I had bad vibes from him. Now knowing he rich makes more convinced the DNC want more people that will reach across the aisle Democrats.

      Why if she loses it only to someone that will keep voting the way she would. I truly believe when comes to economics the GOP and DNC are on the same team.

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        I truly believe when comes to economics the GOP and DNC are on the same team.

        Yep, some people forget that when speaking of politics liberalism is defined by its adherence to free market economics. When they speak about equality it’s not a synonym for equity. Their version of equality just means everyone should have the same opportunity to produce, consume, and be taken advantage of by the rich.

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      I’d agree, except you never saw the Dems and Republicans go this hard against anyone apart from Mamdani, Bernie, and AOC. (Including rival Republicans.)

      That tells me they know his anti-billionaire stance is legitimate.

      Also the made-up scandals that keep popping up around Platner remind me very much of the swift-boating against Bernie in 2016. This shit only happens against people who are honestly willing to oppose the Epstein Class.

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        agree, except you never saw the Dems and Republicans go this hard against anyone apart from Mamdani, Bernie, and AOC. (Including rival Republicans.)

        I don’t think that automatically means anything, especially since the things they are “going hard against” are worth some legitimate criticism.

        Neither one of the parties liked fetterman until he won the primary against Conor Lamb, and even then there wasn’t really another choice for the Dems.

        Also the made-up scandals that keep popping up around Platner remind me very much of the swift-boating against Bernie in 2016.

        What is being fabricated? He did have a Nazi tattoo, which even if it was a mistake still deserves some criticism. If not simply for being a senatorial candidate that is ignorant of history and mindlessly picked a random tattoo. It seems he also stepped out of his marriage in some way, which does speak to his character.

        It may not be worth the amount of air time they are receiving, but it’s not fabricated.

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            Not at all. I was for Bernie. He doesn’t have a Nazi tattoo, hasn’t served in the infantry, doesn’t like killing people, hasn’t had multiple deployments, nor became a mercenary. He wasn’t perfect, but he was more perfect than Platner.

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        "But if he supported the movement for the wrong reasons, he will find every available excuse to withdraw from it now, and he will discover that he was inoculated with so mild a form of commitment that he was immune to the genuine moral article.”

        I don’t really know how you think that supports your argument? That is kinda my fear with Platner, that his service will not be true to his words, and he will fail to live up to his commitments.

        That is unless that MLK quote was aimed at me? In that case… I’m not white, and I’m not a liberal.

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            Again… This is my fear about Platner. I would love to be wrong about it. I just don’t see any evidence in his background that assuages my fears.

            just have to keep using disingenuous cable news talking points.

            What cable news is talking about his class history and his voluntary service to maintain the hegemony?

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                I don’t think he’s going to be a worse option than Collins, but I fear there’s going to be a lot of people on the left are going to be disappointed in his tenure if he wins.

                Do you have an issue with reading comprehension? This isn’t a debate about whether or not he’s a better candidate than Susan Collins. I was simply talking about how I think if he wins his actual tenure will be disappointing compared to what most people are expecting out of him.

                There’s nothing to debate. If you support the status quo and Israel, you’re a terrorist fascist sympathizer.

                Ahh yes, doubting the sincerity of a senatorial candidate that I can’t even vote for automatically makes me complicit in a genocide. Sound and logical rhetoric…

                Which skull tattoo did he have that he removed?

                The topic I said I didn’t care about…?

                What has Israel removed other than the genocidal cleansing they are currently and ongoing engaging in.

                And what does that no sequitur have to do with believing in the sincerity of his political beliefs?

                Stop with your cable news media talking points. Just stop.

                Once again… What cable news organizations are talking about his voluntary service to the hegemony and his family’s economic class?

                Would you be interested for once in actually talking about the points Ive actually brought up, or are you determined to keep swinging away at the strawman arguments you’ve poorly constructed?

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        I mean… That’s an oddly specific fear? Besides that, am I wrong in any particular way? Is there anything that gives you confidence he is sincere in his beliefs?

        I would love to be wrong about the guy, but we really don’t have anything to work with besides his history.

        I’ve met plenty of vets who went left because of their time in the service, and I don’t hold that against them. I can’t say the same about a military contractor though. And most of the guys I know who went left after their service didn’t need to do multiple tours while enlisted, and then another in the guard to come up with that opinion.

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          I think the point is the primary is over and there is no way he will be worse than Collins. Hemming and hawing at this point just carries water for the establishment.

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            So the answer to my question is no, nothing I said is inaccurate. You have nothing but faith that he will live up to his commitments, or that he is genuine in any way.

            Hemming and hawing at this point just carries water for the establishment.

            And I’m sure you were totally reasonable about validating your faith before the primaries…

            I can speak my mind whenever I want. Telling people to just operate on faith alone is how the DNC keeps getting stuck with people like simea and fetterman. Your unfounded faith deserves criticism at all times.

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                There are multiple people still running against him, although he is the heavy favorite and is the only one talked about by the media. I’ve seen people pushing for David Costello, who supports M4A as well as much if not all of the same progressive policies as Platner while not being 80 red flags in a trenchcoat.

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                  TIL. I wonder why Platner is being pushed so hard. I am obviously not from the state, but him and Mills are literally the only ones the media talks about. I thought it was an oh well, gotta vote for the ex (maybe) Nazi mercenary dude because Collins votes 100% with the grand ole pedophiles anyway type of situation.

                  Looking into Costello, he sounds better experienced and a better pick. Although I didn’t see any stance on AIPAC, which is worrisome.

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                    The media absolutely loves Platner, and for the same reasons they love Trump. He is a rich white male who elicits incredibly strong pisitive/negative reactions, with a long history of controversies and who makes bombastic statements. Generally speaking, he’s great for their ratings.

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            First of all… Did I tell anyone to vote for Collins? Are we not supposed to critically think about candidates?

            Pretty sure I said " I don’t think he’s going to be a worse option than Collins, but I fear there’s going to be a lot of people on the left are going to be disappointed in his tenure if he wins."

            Secondly, how is anything I said disingenuous? Besides that, nothing I said is mirroring mainstream news, who are mainly focusing on his tattoo or his infidelity, which I don’t really care about.

            I’m talking about his class history.