That other guy is trying to defend the rights of an Authoritarian Russian regime that if they got the chance, would take away his rights in a heart beat.
You are really trying hard to bend very clear language into you desired outcome. The sentence clearly states “illegal acts of”, if the act is not illegal it can’t be an “illegal act of violence or dedention”. Also, official state forces cannot commit piracy, if acting according to orders from the state. Read your own quote.
You are saying that a XY country could have a law where it says that it’s fine to seize any ship in international waters and thus it’s all good and legal then when it does so?
That was not your question. Your question was if it was piracy and it is clearly not, based on your own legal quote. Are you ready to agree to that or still denying it?
Words mean something. Funnily enough not even Russian propaganda is making that claim that it was actual piracy.
That was not your question. Your question was if it was piracy and it is clearly not, based on your own legal quote. Are you ready to agree to that or still denying it?
You are probably right that it’s not piracy due to the private ends part, my bad, misunderstood. Hence the question what it is called then since is quite similar to piracy.
A vessel suspected to sail under a false flag was inspected in the open sea and the suspucion was confirmed. As such it was diverted in compliance with international law and based on the order if a prosecuter. No profit was made out if that at any point, nor has any report suggested that the vessel lost ny if its freight.
Yes, at the end of the day it was its registration the problem, not the sanctions. All good, no illegal activity after-all (assuming that was really the case).
It’s literally in the headline and article. It’s called detention. As a comparison, when police stop you it’s called “being detained”. They could seize it too, which is called seizure. Neither of those are piracy, though piracy does require detention or seizure. Obviously not every detention or seizure is piracy though.
It’s legal by whatever state is saying it’s legal. If they say it’s illegal for Russia to export oil, it is legal for them to detain a ship they suspect of doing so.
That doesn’t might it “right” or whatever, however you’d want to try and define that for something like this. It does make it not piracy though. Piracy isn’t even necessarily “evil” either. It’s a tool. States have sanctioned pirates against their opponent many times in the past. The difference is it isn’t the state doing it then.
That’s the single critical part on which the remainder of that definition rests.
If a court operating within the confines of the law declares an act legal, then it is to anyone that subscribes to that system of law.
That other guy is trying to defend the rights of an Authoritarian Russian regime that if they got the chance, would take away his rights in a heart beat.
People like that never learn.
It’s any illegal acts of violence or detention, wasn’t the latter the case?
Also what court has a jurisdiction over international seas?
The international Tribunal for the Law of the Sea, following the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea is the big one, though in this case really only covers the manner one can legally seize a ship – the how, not the why.
For that you’d refer to the International Court of Justice (specifically Ukraine v. Russian Federation ), the International Criminal Court (This case in particular. ), and the United Nations General Assembly’s United Nations Security Council Resolution 2623.
And yes, those case are all linked and part of determining the legality of seizing Russian “shadow fleet” ships.
You are really trying hard to bend very clear language into you desired outcome. The sentence clearly states “illegal acts of”, if the act is not illegal it can’t be an “illegal act of violence or dedention”. Also, official state forces cannot commit piracy, if acting according to orders from the state. Read your own quote.
You are saying that a XY country could have a law where it says that it’s fine to seize any ship in international waters and thus it’s all good and legal then when it does so?
That was not your question. Your question was if it was piracy and it is clearly not, based on your own legal quote. Are you ready to agree to that or still denying it?
Words mean something. Funnily enough not even Russian propaganda is making that claim that it was actual piracy.
You are probably right that it’s not piracy due to the private ends part, my bad, misunderstood. Hence the question what it is called then since is quite similar to piracy.
What exactly is similar? Who enriched himself?
A vessel suspected to sail under a false flag was inspected in the open sea and the suspucion was confirmed. As such it was diverted in compliance with international law and based on the order if a prosecuter. No profit was made out if that at any point, nor has any report suggested that the vessel lost ny if its freight.
Yes, at the end of the day it was its registration the problem, not the sanctions. All good, no illegal activity after-all (assuming that was really the case).
It’s literally in the headline and article. It’s called detention. As a comparison, when police stop you it’s called “being detained”. They could seize it too, which is called seizure. Neither of those are piracy, though piracy does require detention or seizure. Obviously not every detention or seizure is piracy though.
Ok, but still, in international water it is an illegal act, isn’t it. When police detains you, it is usually legally.
It’s legal by whatever state is saying it’s legal. If they say it’s illegal for Russia to export oil, it is legal for them to detain a ship they suspect of doing so.
That doesn’t might it “right” or whatever, however you’d want to try and define that for something like this. It does make it not piracy though. Piracy isn’t even necessarily “evil” either. It’s a tool. States have sanctioned pirates against their opponent many times in the past. The difference is it isn’t the state doing it then.