• makingrain@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    Personally, yes, to 1. 2 and 3 are an absolute no. The UK has been the destination for overwhelming migration because of our language being the international standard, much like Ireland that is now seeing colossal migration.

    If we go back, it’s on our terms with complete reform where FoM is limited to those of high scientific worth, as the EU impose externally.

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        That language is not in the spirit of the community. Less name calling, please.

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          I mean, he’s not wrong. My first thought with your reasoning is that you’re racist. He just called you out on it. You looked and quacked like one.

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          Less of you, please.

          Fuck off. I will haunt you as long as you’re spreading your hatred here.

          Notice how it’s only brown people you’ve posted articles about? Fucking shocking!

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      I think what you’re thinking of is a limited free trade agreement. The UK is free to pursue one of those. The UK would probably have to play by EU rules regarding things like product standards (with little say in what those rules are) but free trade without freedom of movement is absolutely doable.

      A military alliance is also no problem.

      Anything beyond that is going to be difficult, though. For countries joining the EU after it’s inception, points 2 and 3 are hard requirements. The UK doesn’t have much to offer that would justify giving it special treatment.

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        Disagree. The UK’s economy has hardly stalled, compared to the other G7 nations that are in the EU since Brexit. We should’ve never gone the Boris way of hard Brexit, that was his own doing, unfortunately, and we should’ve aimed for an EEA-style minus FoM deal at the time that was perfectly achievable. We have every say in it, seeing as we’re the ones with something to offer.

        The UK populace never voted for joining the modern day EU. We joined before the EU had FoM, so you’re kinda wrong there. If you don’t think the UK has much to offer, you’re wrong. We have the nuclear umbrella, strongest financial and service industry out of all of the EU, easiest place for global companies to setup business, and don’t forget our fisheries. That’s just verbatim. We’d be stronger in the EU, but it needs to change.

        Don’t forget that Cameron was rebuked prior to Brexit when asking for the mildest of reform. This could’ve been avoided.

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          You can’t be part of the club if you don’t play by the rules. Sorry you don’t like immigrants or whatever.

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            I have no problem with immigrants. It was simply unsustainable. Whatever.

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              Someone fell for the propaganda, but doesn’t like the results of things.

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                I didn’t fall for any propaganda, I voted against Brexit. Now, times have changed and I’d not vote to rejoin. We’re doing pretty well in comparison to Germany and France, but would be doing better if the EU made some allowances back in 2015. I like that we’re independent of the EU, yet still contribute more than most to the security of Europe in 2026.

                Perhaps it’s you that’s fallen for the 'ganda.

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      Your position seems very similar to that which resulted in No Deal Brexit in the first place.

      The EU was pretty sure they didn’t need you. Now they know they don’t need you.

      Why would they give you things now that you were denied then?