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    Emasculate originally meant to castrate so a feminine equivalent wasn’t necessary.

    The word we’re looking for, from a linguistic / cultural usage standpoint is infantilized.

    The uplifting side of this community is super nice, the “men suck let’s hate men let’s compare ourselves to men” part is real Icky.

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      Is pondering about the word “emasculate” and its etymology and modern usage the same as saying “men suck”?

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        14 days ago

        No. I’m speaking about the general theme of much of the content posted here.

        It’s very “compare to the other” instead of “lift us up”

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          Bit of an odd thing to bring up on this post then.

          Can you share the post where we’re comparing ourselves to men? I haven’t seen such a discussion here.

          I have seen some sensitive topics broached like abuse or no fault divorce be discussed, but I just scrolled through the last few weeks and can’t find what you’re referencing.

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              14 days ago

              Did you mean to link to this same conversation that you just said wasn’t an example?

              This leads back to this post.

              Edit: Unless you’re thinking that talking about masculinity is the same as comparing ourselves to men?

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                14 days ago

                Yes. This post is an example.

                My no was to your interpretation of my meaning, you asked me a yes or no question to which I responded “no”

                Edit: Unless you’re thinking that talking about masculinity is the same as comparing ourselves to men?

                I don’t read this as simply “talking about masculinity”, I’m not interested in changing how you read this because to be frank I don’t put much weight into your take or point.

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                  14 days ago

                  This post isn’t about women comparing ourselves to men or saying we hate men. It’s a word nerd post more than anything.

                  You’re more than welcome to ignore the posts that are talking about gender ideology and sexism if the points we’re making go over your head.

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                    14 days ago

                    I’m also more then welcome to comment on and call out posts that have a bend that gives the ick.

                    We both can feel free to fuck off is what you’re saying.

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      14 days ago

      I’ve been on this community for two years and have yet to see anyone say “men suck.” I believe it’s against the rules.

      There are multiple definitions for emasculate, but they’re specifically referring to a loss of masculinity here.

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          Nope, they meant specific posts. This one included. There is no anti-men sentiment here, and if there is I would love to see examples.

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            This post is an example.

            It starts by othering men, then comparing how their identity is an only a social construct and how silly is it that only men have this word.

            Like, it directly does this.

            Idk how anyone can see these posts and not recognize that?

            “Only a man can …”

            This reads like “men are silly and fragile lol look at them” instead of something uplifting.

            There is a discussion that can be had about this that doesn’t necessitate othering anyone.

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              No it doesn’t.

              Masculinity is a social construct. And it varies across cultures, time and social groups.

              Masculinity is not an identity. Male is an identity. Masculinity is a societal behaviour set.

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              You omitted the context in the post and projected your own interpretation onto it.

              That’s not what the image says.

              Not all men feel their identity is rooted in being masculine. No one here is calling it silly.

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              No, you said that. It does not directly say that if you need to take a long walk to get to the point you’re making. And repeatedly try to convince peoole that’s what it says.

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                You and one other user (on multiple accounts) are actively arguing my point and you’re right you baited me into arguing with you when I ought not waste my time.

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                  I’d ask you to point out where I baited you if I didn’t think it’d be just as nonsensical as your interpretation of this post. Also, you commented first. I replied.

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            There are no examples. That user signaled to the men of Lemmy that they’re standing up against the evil misandrists in here and they’ve got their pats on the back now.

            God forbid women and femmes have a space where we can talk about what we want without having to look over our shoulder for men and their opinions on our lives.

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              It’s funny. I hear people say we bash men all the time but no one’s given an example yet.

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                There was an entire thread in AskLemmy dedicated to calling this community misandrists a few weeks ago. Men on Lemmy seem to get very bothered when women gather on our own.

                I haven’t seen an example either.

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            13 days ago

            Still waiting for all this man hate you’ve claimed this community is nurturing.

            Pretty easy to claim something and then nope out when asked about your claim.

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              You’re using multiple accounts to comment on my comments, presumably to try to get around having been blocked.

              So far a blahaj and shitjustworks account.

              You’re violating this communities rules. Please back off

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                R e l a x

                I have two accounts because I use a different instance on my pc vs my phone. You can check my mod log, no bans being evaded here.

                We’re in the same exact thread.

                You just don’t like being called out for casting this entire community as man haters.