I’ve been playing anything but soulslikes recently. Climbing my way up the ranked ladder in League, played some Darkwood, and recently got obsessed with Pokerogue which has been a lot of fun.

Soulslikes can pose quite a challenge for players with their oftentimes quite brutal difficulty: insane boss patterns that leave no breathing room, high amounts of damage, status damage. Luckily, many bosses allow for strategies that exploit intended as well as unintended weaknesses to make the fights a little more bearable. So following up on @[email protected]’s suggestion, I want to know what your favourite ways to cheese a boss in a Soulslike is.

Cheesing could be a glitch in this case, like glitching out the final boss of the Bloodborne DLC to stop them from attacking or having Gyoubu or a certain hateful spirit jump off a cliff in Sekiro, as well as “intended” cheeses, like chugging consumables and Fable Arts at bosses in Lies of P.

I haven’t done it myself, but I always found it incredibly funny to think about that the Capra Demon from DS1, a wall for many new players, can be killed from outside their fog of wall with stones and dung piles. Or a certain simian boss from Sekiro being very weak to the Mortal Draw to a point where he’s in a constant stagger animation and just dies without any counterplay.

What are your favourite cheeses?

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    Ohh, I didn’t think about farming related cheese but there is also the iconic DS1 spot on the bridge where you let the dragon kill all those hollows for you by just running up and down from the bonfire. That’s a classic.


    What made you grab Code Vein of all things? I’ve heard some… not so good things about it. And does that mean you gave up on Withering Rooms, then? It’s totally fine, my recommendations can’t all be winners.


    Love your hair! And you still got your claws I see.

    Also that is a very cute flowerpot.

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      Oh, I haven’t given up on Withering rooms, but I keep it soulslike related in this comm XD. There’s other stuff I’ve been meaning to ask you about it, now that I remember. (But again, not here)


      Code Vein, well it was cheap af. Only thing I know about it is that it has the anime aesthetic going on and I had heard that the level design was good.


      Also a flower pot? that’s Iron Fist Alexander, for you. Mighty warrior jar… Please put some respect on my boy’s name.

      (And thank you)

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        Well you know, if Druid can talk about throwing their sanity away in League every week in this thread then we can talk about playing non-Souls games too here. Plus, Withering Rooms was clearly inspired by Dark Souls (and its sequel will be an actual Soulslike/-lite) so it’s practically an honorary Soulslike anyway.

        Also, weren’t you supposed to be punk? Sticking to some stuffy establishment notion of a “discussion topic” is not very punk rock…


        Hm, I don’t think I’ve heard much praise for the level design in Code Vein. Are you sure you’re not mixing it up with AI Limit? That’s another anime Soulslike and that one does get praised a lot for level design (although I found it less impressive than people made it out to be).


        Well, if he wanted me to take him seriously as a warrior he shouldn’t have garden greens growing out of his head. He’s giving less “Iron Fist” and more “Iron Fistful of basil for my omelette”.

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          Ok. I might be getting confused on the games :s … What are the “not great” things you’ve heard about code vein?


          On regards to withering rooms… It’s kind of stupid, but Are the photo plates purchaseable from some vendors? (It’d been a while) The guy on the first floor doesn’t have them, right now I don’t think I have any mirrors to go to the hub place to check ( Can that happen, the nowhere place being non accessible I mean?) . Should I just start another night? I’m relying on enemy drops buuut everything’s dead rn. So I maybe I need to pay a visit to coffin guy…

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            Okay first of all I don’t want to say anything definitive because I haven’t played it myself. And Code Vein does have its fanbase, it’s just that they mostly like it for the anime story and the companion system (or co-op) or the character creator that lets you make your own anime character. Or the build variety I guess, I have heard it’s supposed to have good build variety.

            But stuff like combat, boss design, level design and exploration are often brought up as criticisms in various ways. Clunky and weightless combat, some bad bosses, poor balancing, uninspiring level design with lots of samey-looking mazelike copy-pasted assets, poor enemy variety… stuff like that is what I’ve heard.


            Okay, so yes. Lord Nobody of Nowhere in Central Nowhere sells photo plates (he also buys pictures, pays extra for pictures of ghosts). Like every vendor, he will only sell you up to a certain quantity, so you can never overstock anything (apart from craftables). I think the max limit on photo plates is 7. I think this also takes into account spent photo plates in your inventory so always sell those off before you restock.

            I don’t think there should be any place that is completely inaccessible, not that I remember. Which area are you in? But doing a farming run with Mr Coffin isn’t a bad idea if you need more resources. There are also some neat farming strats you can do, like with the grandfather clock (set it to midnight to attract enemies then pelt them with an AoE like Harvest Field). Or some Door Hex shenanigans.

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              I see, I remember looking for a review of the first one when the latest one dropped and it didn’t gave me a bad impression. But maybe I wasn’t thorough enough.

              I guess between this one and thymesia I’ll play the mid/bad soulslikes as well, eventually.


              good to know on the plate thing, thank you! oh and that’s what the clock is for? I had no idea. I’m at the entry of the maze. Because of the pace of the game I’m being very careful not to die and I haven’t died that much so I went to get stuff before I dived in. Anyway if anything else comes up I’ll ask you about it… Or look it up like a normal person XD