• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    If you live in the US Empire, you can be a part of the movement to end it. Especially with the Empire’s recent aggression against Venezuela, now is a good time to get active! Join an org like the PSL! They’re already organizing anti-war protests, and even had one on Saturday.

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      If you live in the US Empire, you can be a part of the movement to end it

      That’s objectively bad messaging. ‘End the US Empire’ is so trivial to paint as purely anti-American. Not only will fail to win over more than a tiny fraction of people, but anyone part of it will be easily discredited

      How would ‘end the US Empire’ ever be a popular idea in America? Even assuming it is a moral platform, it can only ever be a fringe idea in America

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        That’s objectively bad messaging. ‘End the US Empire’ is so trivial to paint as purely anti-American.

        We have got a Chauvinist here.

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        Any socialist organizing will be painted as anti american. Who gives a shit? The fascists call the neolibs radical, marxist, far left, anti american, you name it, despite the fact that they’re two sides of the same shitty capitalist coin.

        Your comment rhymes with telling a child not to stand up to their bully because the bully will call them names. Even a child would answer with, “but they do that already!”

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      9 months ago

      I dont mean to detract from your point at all here… In fact, PSL is my favorite org in recent memory, but I have yet to join out of fear.

      I hope this comment doesn’t come across as FUD because I certainly don’t want to steer people away from organizing, but… do you ever fear that getting your name on paperwork in one of these orgs could jeopardize your safety? Shit is happening so fast in America right now that I am straight up afraid of organizing. Im thinking of a scenario where PSL headquarters gets raided, and everyone who shows up on an active members list gets shipped to El Salvador.

      Kind of a disjointed reply, but I guess all I really wanted to say is that shit is getting really scary right now, and I’m not even part of a vulnerable group. I’m afraid.

      Maybe the answer is that, yes, joining a leftist organization during fascist descent does incur massive risks, but that is the necessary burden that American leftists must take for the sake of the people we are oppressing? Maybe now is the time to be brave?

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        9 months ago

        Your fears are 100% valid. PSL has a strong public-facing presense as its own shield, it’s the honesty and integrity of PSL that keeps the public more on its side. However, there’s also the Action Network, an informal, secondary level of membership with minimal requirements that means you just volunteer when the opportunity arises, and aren’t a disciplined cadre. This is also a valid form of organizing, both the mass organization and the dedicated cadre are necessary!