It’s crazy that no one has integrated them with a graphing calculator, spreadsheets, symbolic logic software, etc., in order to increase their deterministic reasoning capacity.
Like, human brains aren’t just the language centers, so I don’t know why the people trying to build an analogue haven’t done more than merely trying to make the linguistic capacity more complex…
Good for you, but then that doesn’t make you the most reliable source on their capabilities.
Why would I need that when I can use a calculator myself?
Because it doesn’t just execute your calculations. It solves the whole math problem, then codes an app to handle future problems like this, automatically.
Sure, you don’t need to use it, if you’re already comfortable with what you have. AI brings nothing new, but it does allow for speed and convenience (so long as accuracy isn’t critical).
I never claimed to be the authoritative source on all AI knowledge, chill out. Also, it’s entirely possible to keep up on developments in tech without using the technology.
As for the rest, if you want to let an LLM do all that for you, go ahead. It’s not gonna bother me when it gives you a bad output.
I mean the poster above you is wrong, they use math tools internally now when you ask math questions. Very obvious in Gemini. Yes the raw LLM trying to autocomplete the answer to a math problem is gonna be wrong but that’s not the way they are used to solve problems like that anymore.
It doesn’t matter what LLMs can and can’t do well: all they have to do is do stuff a person does well enough for the price of the tokens they consume to make that person’s occupation vanish if it’s cheaper - and it almost always is. The metric companies use is cost, not quality. Because that’s how capitalism works.
The bills are coming in now and much like all other cloud computing, it suddenly becomes much more expensive to do anything useful once you are dependent on it
It’s so easy to sucker capitalists with labor replacement schemes
I also like folks mentality that “once they see the real price of AI everything will be back to normal”. As if the very same companies didn’t get baited into becoming dependent on American cloud service providers like AWS to find themselves later paying out the fucking ass for them once they are dependent on them. Guess what ? THEY ARE STILL PAYING FOR IT, after more than a decade of being swindled. They will do the same with AI.
Neither can a substantial amount of high school graduates in the US. Corporate is just hedging their bets that AI does slightly closer to accurate math and that meat machines are cheaper for physical labor than having to build robots. Besides, math is unimportant to capitalism. A company that loses billions a year is still worth investing trillions in.
Llms can’t even do math. And odds on them figuring that “highly complicated” technology out before the bubble bursts seems low.
It’s crazy that no one has integrated them with a graphing calculator, spreadsheets, symbolic logic software, etc., in order to increase their deterministic reasoning capacity.
Like, human brains aren’t just the language centers, so I don’t know why the people trying to build an analogue haven’t done more than merely trying to make the linguistic capacity more complex…
They have, you’re not using the latest premium models.
That would probably be because I don’t use them? Why would I need that when I can use a calculator myself?
Good for you, but then that doesn’t make you the most reliable source on their capabilities.
Because it doesn’t just execute your calculations. It solves the whole math problem, then codes an app to handle future problems like this, automatically.
Sure, you don’t need to use it, if you’re already comfortable with what you have. AI brings nothing new, but it does allow for speed and convenience (so long as accuracy isn’t critical).
I never claimed to be the authoritative source on all AI knowledge, chill out. Also, it’s entirely possible to keep up on developments in tech without using the technology.
As for the rest, if you want to let an LLM do all that for you, go ahead. It’s not gonna bother me when it gives you a bad output.
I mean the poster above you is wrong, they use math tools internally now when you ask math questions. Very obvious in Gemini. Yes the raw LLM trying to autocomplete the answer to a math problem is gonna be wrong but that’s not the way they are used to solve problems like that anymore.
The LLM has to choose to use the calculating tools. Gemini tried to do this one solo:
Tbf, it did four of these calculations, and 75% were correct.
no way i’d want to drive on a bridge built on their supposed math
That makes sense. I clearly don’t keep up on the frontier models…
Some of them write and execute Python internally for stuff like that
It doesn’t matter what LLMs can and can’t do well: all they have to do is do stuff a person does well enough for the price of the tokens they consume to make that person’s occupation vanish if it’s cheaper - and it almost always is. The metric companies use is cost, not quality. Because that’s how capitalism works.
The bills are coming in now and much like all other cloud computing, it suddenly becomes much more expensive to do anything useful once you are dependent on it
It’s so easy to sucker capitalists with labor replacement schemes
I would be ok with robots taking our jobs if you could trust governments to pay us the taxes they charge the robots.
According to Startrek you need a deadly riot first before that happens.
I also like folks mentality that “once they see the real price of AI everything will be back to normal”. As if the very same companies didn’t get baited into becoming dependent on American cloud service providers like AWS to find themselves later paying out the fucking ass for them once they are dependent on them. Guess what ? THEY ARE STILL PAYING FOR IT, after more than a decade of being swindled. They will do the same with AI.
Neither can a substantial amount of high school graduates in the US. Corporate is just hedging their bets that AI does slightly closer to accurate math and that meat machines are cheaper for physical labor than having to build robots. Besides, math is unimportant to capitalism. A company that loses billions a year is still worth investing trillions in.