ThinkTank
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
PugJesus@piefed.socialM to TankieJerk@piefed.socialEnglish · 2 months ago

Tankie "anti-imperialism"

media.piefed.social

message-square
55
link
fedilink
322

Tankie "anti-imperialism"

media.piefed.social

PugJesus@piefed.socialM to TankieJerk@piefed.socialEnglish · 2 months ago
message-square
55
link
fedilink
  • tired_fedora@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    2 months ago

    Concentration camps != Extermination camps. The nazis had both. They also did forced sterilization in those camps. But the latter camps also had gas chambers.

    The US interned American Natives / American Indians and Japanese people in concentration camps. At least for the former group, they also carried out forced sterilization, settled and exploited their land, and stole their children away for “re-education”. They did not build gas chambers or any other means of industrial slaughter, but few people would deny that the US committed genocide against the Native population of that continent.

    It’s well documented that contraception, sterilization, and possibly abortion, are forced upon the Uyghur people in Xinjiang. Uyghur people but not Han Chinese are being interned in concentration camps in, at the time, the “largest mass incarceration of an ethnic-religious minority since second world war” (Guardian, 2019). Uyghur children are being transfered to boarding schools against the will of their parents and guardians, or because those have been interned for having too many children in the first place. Multiple Chinese government officials have repeatedly affirmed the goal of reducing Uyghur fertility. At a minimum, this constitutes 3 out of the 5 possible criteria for a genocide, each of which alone is sufficient to make that accusation. We have not yet seen mass killing of Uyghurs, but that doesn’t mean there’s no genocide. As has been said in this discussion: “We know what genocide looks like.” Exactly: It commonly looks quite like this.

    Sources:

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide?wprov=sfla1
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China?wprov=sfla1
    • https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/china-cables-leak-no-escapes-reality-china-uighur-prison-camp
    • https://apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764C
    • https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-birthrate-sterilization-genocide
    • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713
    • https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55973215
    • https://www.studentsofhistory.com/internment-of-japanese-americans
    • https://www.popsci.com/story/health/forced-sterilization-american-history/
    • Cosmoscos ☭@lemmy.todayBanned from community
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      Guardian, 2019

      lol.

      wikipedia

      ok.

      bbc

      ok.

      Goal of reducing fertility isnt inherently wrong if it is done through education and awareness, I also support anti religious campaign through those methods.

      • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        2 months ago

        Dude fucking lays it out for you and you still can’t fucking see it. Jesus fucking christ, shake your head a bit.

      • yucandu@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        There’s 700+ sources cited in the Amnesty International report, good luck discrediting every single one of them:

        https://www.amnesty.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Amnesty-International_China-Report_FINAL.pdf

TankieJerk@piefed.social

tankiejerk@piefed.social

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]

Dunking on Tankies from a leftist, anti-capitalist perspective.

Rules:

  1. No bigotry of any kind.
  2. No tankies or right-wingers. Liberals are allowed so long as they are aware of this
  3. No genocide or atrocity denial

We allow posts about tankie behavior, shitposts, and rational, leftist discussion. Please redirect any Fediverse tankie-posts to [email protected] to avoid bringing drama to Piefed.social

Curious about non-tankie leftism? If you’ve got a little patience for 19th century academic style, let a little Marx and Kropotkin be your primer!

Marx’s Communist Manifesto, short and accessible! Highly recommended if you haven’t read it

Kropotkin’s Conquest Of Bread

Selected works of Marx

For a wider variety of leftist memes, see:

[email protected]

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 2 users / day
  • 3 users / week
  • 3 users / month
  • 1.87K users / 6 months
  • 1 local subscriber
  • 401 subscribers
  • 213 Posts
  • 671 Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • PugJesus@piefed.social
  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
  • BE: 0.19.13
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org