Of course not. My head is spinning because I don’t want to accuse anyone here of not acknowledging Gaza at least as a Palestinian quasi-state. Hitler systematically killing Jews in the pre-1939 borders -> genocide NOT war. Hitler systematically killing Jews in Poland, France, Romania, etc., etc., etc., -> genocide AND war. That doesn’t change anything about genocide being terrible in both cases. Allied troops marching onto Berlin: War but definitely not genocide. I repeat: Are y’all saying that Israel is not violating a territorial border when marching troops into Gaza? Because it does feel like that’s what y’all’re saying.
I don’t really know what we are discussing here. All I’m saying is: There can be war and genocide without taking away from the other somehow. What is the point of saying that there were no war in Gaza? If one accepts for a second that there were no war in Gaza - just genocide: Who benefits from mis labeling it as a war, independent of calling it a genocide?
As for your point about resistance in Nazi Germany: I acknowledge that the distinction between local resistance and a civil war is a threshold argument, which are infamously hard to resolve. Resistance in Nazi Germany certainly didn’t have enough broad public support to call it a civil war. However, even if your argument is that Palestinian resistance against Israel were inconsequential, not calling it a war feels dangerously close to not recognizing Gaza at least as a quasi-state. If not war then how is invasion? Returning to my point above.
Was Hitler at war with Jews? Cause they had resistance groups too.
Of course not. My head is spinning because I don’t want to accuse anyone here of not acknowledging Gaza at least as a Palestinian quasi-state. Hitler systematically killing Jews in the pre-1939 borders -> genocide NOT war. Hitler systematically killing Jews in Poland, France, Romania, etc., etc., etc., -> genocide AND war. That doesn’t change anything about genocide being terrible in both cases. Allied troops marching onto Berlin: War but definitely not genocide. I repeat: Are y’all saying that Israel is not violating a territorial border when marching troops into Gaza? Because it does feel like that’s what y’all’re saying. I don’t really know what we are discussing here. All I’m saying is: There can be war and genocide without taking away from the other somehow. What is the point of saying that there were no war in Gaza? If one accepts for a second that there were no war in Gaza - just genocide: Who benefits from mis labeling it as a war, independent of calling it a genocide?
As for your point about resistance in Nazi Germany: I acknowledge that the distinction between local resistance and a civil war is a threshold argument, which are infamously hard to resolve. Resistance in Nazi Germany certainly didn’t have enough broad public support to call it a civil war. However, even if your argument is that Palestinian resistance against Israel were inconsequential, not calling it a war feels dangerously close to not recognizing Gaza at least as a quasi-state. If not war then how is invasion? Returning to my point above.