• CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Is there a reason bullpup isn’ the standard? (reloading issues maybe?) it seems like a sensible way to get more barrel length while maintaining a compact weapon.

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        1 month ago

        As long as you aren’t British, they aren’t that hard to make. But, the “conventional vs. bullpup” debate is a separate one from the “intermediate rifle vs. full power rifle” debate for the most part. I know people are going to talk about overall length, but really that’s an argument point that applies no matter the caliber.

        Intermediate caliber vs. full power is really a fundamental difference in thinking.

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            I want to emphasize my above comment was made specifically to avoid the “conventional vs bullpup” debate, because it is a separate one from the “intermediate caliber vs full size”. I can not stress this enough.

            The benefit of having a full length barrel in a shorter package looks amazing on paper, but in practice isn’t as big a deal for most purposes.

            Bullpups introduce issues like an upper limit on how good the trigger can be because of a needed linkage, and I think more pressing is making something as simple as brass ejection a bit of a head scratcher to make work for both left and right handed people. There are solutions but they aren’t necessary if you just don’t deal with bullpups.

            Since AR-15 derived designs are the most popular military rifles worldwide, I’ll mention that the straightline recoil and beefy buffer assembly are appreciated and that impulse can’t really be replicated in a bullpup design.

            Now, I feel it in my bones that you want to argue for the merits of bullpups. Maybe I’m wrong but I just get that sense. I genuinely have been a part of so many bullpup conversations and I honestly don’t care about it. Bullpup vs conventional is a boring argument. If you’re still wanting to continue a discussion/debate/internet argument please direct an angry correspondence to the French military about their dropping of the FAMAS for HK416s.