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I also posted this to Ask Lemmy, but I am interested in specifically other women’s perspectives as well.
I have a bunch of hobbies, which range from female dominated to a solid mix of participants. However, for a hobby that has a good number of both men and women involved, there seems to be a gap in the participation and achievement levels in a way that mostly aligns with gender. A friend of mine mentioned we would have to look at how men engage with hobbies.
Do you feel that the ways men and women engage with hobbies generally, but especially when they share the same hobby still differs?
I’ve found everything from “little to no difference” to “one room, two clubs” in this.
If there’s room for any kind of competition, it leans to “one room, two clubs”. If the hobby in question is more just appreciation or a need for some kind of joint work, it leans in the direction of low difference.
I’ve taught and taken art classes in a big city and a small town. I notice the gender gap closes quite a bit in the city, where my classes were pretty evenly mixed. However, in the small town my classes are mostly, if not all women. I think everyone has their own unique methods and capabilities, but what they do and how they do it is strongly influenced by their location and culture.
I do many “masc-coded” hobbies. I was even a mod on reddit for one. It was an outdoor hobby that could take a person far from rapid response range so my perspective on safety was quite different than my fellow mods who were men. That’s actually one of the reasons they invited me to join the mod team.
E.g., someone posted about a missing person and asked if anyone had details, to DM them. I locked the post and pinned a mod message that any details need to go to law enforcement and not reddit users. It escaped my peers that while the request could be legitimate, it could also be an abuser looking for their victim trying to evade them. Minds blown. They never even considered it while it was glaringly obvious to me.
Unfortunately, with the reddit changes, that sub turned bad really quickly. Take the “man or bear” meme where there is no winning answer for a woman and that’s what the sub became. Concerns over womens’ safety? They should just stay home. Woman got attacked in the backcountry? Her fault, she should have had a gun or a man with a gun to protect her, or better yet just stayed home.
On trail I very rarely run into IRL men with that sort of unhealthy view. Most are fine, even keen to see women enjoying hobbies in common. But that takes us right back to the “not all men” thing where yes, not all men but you can’t tell by looking at a man which bucket he belongs to.
Beyond that, I look at hobbies often from a lens of skill acquisition. I don’t know that’s a men/women gendered thing so much as a process engineer/optimization/continuous learning thing.
Ohhh I remember that post being locked, good on you for doing that.
I responded in the other post as well, but I do want to add here that the difference in achievement or time available feels like it comes down to the general gender gap where women are the house minders.
A woman isn’t going to have the same levels of engagement if she’s busy minding the house, kids, dinner, finances - or whatever have you.
I feel like this is something one can visualize through history. Mozart is the accomplished man, Da Vinci is the accomplished man, Einstein, Tesla, Sammy Sosa, etc etc etc. Yes those men had talent, but that doesn’t mean that their time wasn’t built upon the backs of the women who cared for the rest of their lives.
And that’s all getting off topic, but in general I don’t think the average woman (in a relationship especially) can approach a hobby with the same levels of verve or whatever because of the inherent gender gap. Of course this isn’t true everywhere or for everyone, but, y’know, sweeping generalizations and such ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thank you for mentioning the time spent on task difference between men and women
It absolutely affects how much time women get to spend on leisure activities like hobbies.
This isn’t something that I’ve considered before, thank you!
My main hobby is leathercrafting but within the hobby I’d say there is quite a difference to the point it is hard to evaluate. I can’t say I know the exact ratio but it seems pretty evenly split between men and women from my experience.
The difference is mostly in what people make and the ‘aesthetic’ category it often fits into.
Men tend towards making belts, watch straps, wallets, tool accessories (e.g. sheath for knives) and old/ancient pieces (tankards, bracers and other armour/renactment accessories). Generally the ‘vibe’ is lots of brown and heavy veg tan leather, the type that looks better with age and wear.
Women tend towards making purses, handbags, fashion accessories and often fetish/alt fashion wear too - stuff like chokers, spike collars, bracelets, cuffs etc.
One area I’ve not looked into is saddlery and other animal products like dog collars and leads (but there is crossover with the above there…). I feel the saddlery area is kind of its own thing and women generally tend to be more into horses so I imagine it is related…
Of course there are loads of crossovers - lots of women make belts and wallets and plenty of men make purses and handbags but that is just my anecdotal evidence on what seems to be the split.
Online it is dominated by men on old style forums and reddit but that feels skewed due to the general userbase demographics.
Otherwise I don’t feel there is a significant ‘achievement’ split in the hobby.
Playing in a symphony orchestra, I didn’t see a difference between the genders. Everyone committed to their pieces and practices. Everyone worked well together. There wasn’t a gap in work ethic, though some gaps in talent naturally. Nothing gender specific.
When it comes to Sport i’d say no. At least not in climbing bouldering. Well, there is a physical gap - man are in average still stronger. But Motivation wise, how hard people are willing to train, how much they push their boundaries and so on i would say i know many woman who get equally crazy about it as men. :D
Reading books is also the same i would say.
Playing instruments and singing: i also dont see a difference in gender.




