• stylusmobilus@aussie.zone
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    1 day ago

    I don’t know what to tell you

    Yeah don’t try and condescend. Labor had no dramas handing out billions over AUKUS without taking that to an election. So no, it’s how it works when Labor wish to pork barrel, and that’s exactly what they’re doing here.

    You don’t know that

    Yeah, I do. It’s free dental, of course the majority would want it, particularly Victoria which might be our most progressive state.

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      1 day ago

      If everyone wants free dental then why isn’t it already a thing?

      If it’s such a no-brainer with obvious unilateral support then why isn’t it included in medicare? Or why doesn’t every state government implement it?

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        why isn’t it already a thing

        Probably because the majors haven’t had a political reason until now

        why isn’t it included in Medicare

        Same reason. Have you noticed that for years the better option has wanted it?

        You understand how our politics works don’t you?

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        why doesn’t every state

        They do, to health care card holders

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          24 hours ago

          Sorry boss, you don’t seem to understand how our politics works.

          Why haven’t the majors had a political reason until now? Every major party has wanted to be elected since forever. If this is such a straight shot, an obvious win, why hasn’t one of the major parties just done it?

          the better option

          That’s subjective, obviously: I’m not sure who your “better option” is but given that we do not have free dental I can only conclude that this better option is a minor party. This might shock you but minor parties can just make up whatever policies will gather votes for them because they don’t have to form government and actually implement them.

          health care card holders

          We’re not talking about only health care card holders.

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            23 hours ago

            why haven’t…

            Probably because there’s been plenty of other things to pork barrel on.

            The problem with your hypothesis is that these parties just go ahead and do costly things without waiting for the electorate anyway.

            that’s subjective

            No it isn’t, they’re better by every metric and if you don’t know who I’m talking about…I don’t know what to say to you. Furthermore, they stand up for us and the disadvantaged, whereas Labor are happy to let American tech companies kick people off the NDIS to fund submarines sold by pedophiles. Or let gas companies take our resources for nothing. Or let gambling companies advertise to whomever they like.

            this might shock you

            This chestnut again. Labor relies on the Greens and independents to pass pretty much anything decent and when they want to default to cruelty, they need the Coalition. They’re not too bad at stealing minor party policies either…the Greens have argued for state funded dental for years plus the reversal of CGT and negative gearing on housing.

            Labor’s had no interest in these until it’s politically expedient, and used one to cover their cowardice in selling out the nations sovereignty and cruelty. Which btw they teamed up with ON and the Coalition to do on both occasions. All three, if we include gambling ads.

            form government

            I thought they did that with Rudd/Gillard

            implement them

            Which Labor, for all its power, can’t do without Green or Coalition help either. We notice where Labor runs when they want to kick down.

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              22 hours ago

              Lets leave it there shall we. If you genuinely believe that a party can be better by every metric but fail to form government, then I can’t help you understand politics. Well done.