After people reacted so positively to the banner I made I had the idea to do the same with c/anarchism. But what to draw? Well I took the existing image and traced over it, adding some more character.
License (as always): CC-0, no rights reserved. Especially since it’s traced over a generated image.
Again, copying isn’t stealing.
If it’s to reproduce it at scale, yes it is.
You can’t just redefine words to fit your sensibilities
Neither can you. Copying someone’s copywritten work is IP theft; in actuality, it’s not just stealing the work but the artistic style of artists, which is far worse.
And since you seem intent on hanging your argument on copying, here’s evidence that copyright infringement is a form of IP Theft:
Continuing to act like GenAI, specifically its current iteration and regarding who controls it, isn’t a theft and plagiarism machine is just pro-billionaire claptrap. That’s not an anarchist stance, that’s being distracted by an oligarch’s shiny, dangling keys.
It’s just copyright infringement. “ip theft” isn’t a thing. Ergo It’s not stealing, it’s violating copyrights which is a shit law nobody should respect.
Cool, so you’re fine stealing art from artists (or infringing the rights of artists, as you seem to prefer), and you’re fine if billionaires steal art in support of capitalism. Got it. I agree the law is stupid, but stealing from artists isn’t the correct way to fix it.
And again, because this is an Anarchy community: that’s not anarchist thinking, that’s capitalist thinking, and quite privileged at that.
It would be great if we could make a practical distinction between personal and private property, but until we deal with the powers at the top, the artists at the bottom with the rest of us still need to eat in the meantime in this abusive system.
I don’t support corporations whatsoever but the kind of uses I promote for piracy and genai don’t harm artists.
I also don’t steal, nor violate their “rights” since they’re coming from an unjust law. I am merely providing a space for like minded people to talk about genai and share their creations made for personal gratification.
Says who?
Every law on the subject deals with “infringement”, not “theft”.
Copyright is a state-mandated monopoly on reproducing a specific creative work. Violating the state’s rules about that monopoly is not “theft”.
To actually have IP theft, you’d have to use some nefarious means to acquire ownership of the IP, taking it away from the artist.
If your friend made an artwork, but before they published it, you took it to the copyright office and had the copyright registered in your name … now that would be IP “theft”. You actually stole the IP from someone and deprived them of that IP by doing so.
I agree.
Wrong, because you are operating from a non-capitalistic mindset. The artist is not suddenly able to reap the benefits of socialism or communism simply because you wish the economic system to be different. We can distinguish between public, private, and personal property all we want, but they’re nonetheless still unrealized concepts. The artist must still eat, and depriving them of their work by feeding it into a plagiarism machine is not a step towards tearing the old system down; it is in direct support of it.
So you can handwave and be a legalese pedant all you want, but the reality is that copying art in this current economic system directly deprives the artist of their livelihood. Sounds like theft to me.
ETA: if you don’t care about artists, then just say that. At least it would be honest.
But you’re not depriving them of their work. They still have their work.
What you’re maybe depriving them of is the ability to sell their work.
Wow, what a great distinction. All the artists have been fighting for nothing.
That’s not what I’ve been saying. The whole time, I’m just trying to get you to see the distinction and get you to realize that “stealing” and “theft” are not the correct words to use to describe what is being done.
Words mean things, and standing up for artists doesn’t excuse hyperbolic twisting of language.