New details emerge about extreme measures used by British soldiers to support a Gulf autocrat

Previously secret military files reveal links between the use of torture by British forces in Oman and Northern Ireland during the 1970s.

      • deHaga@feddit.ukEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Quote me where I defended anything. It was not considered torture at the time.

        • huf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          1 month ago

          by the legal experts of the UK. who are irrelevant for determining what is torture in reality. this is you defending torture.

          • deHaga@feddit.ukEnglish
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            1 month ago

            The 5 Techniques were used for ~8 years until 1972 when they were banned.

            The UN classified techniques like these as torture in 1984.

            Again, please point out where I defended it.

            • huf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              1 month ago

              you’re still doing it. nobody but you is talking about the legality, can you get that through your head?

              this is what you’re calling not torture:

              Declassified has previously found that while one member of the Shihuh tribe was being questioned, he refused to give up his ceremonial dagger and was shot in the arm, shoulder, and neck.

              and this:

              They were subjected to now banned methods of torture which involve sensory deprivation, such as completely covering someone’s head with a sack and bombarding them with noise.

              and this:

              They did this by forcing the Shihuh detainees into unnatural stress positions against walls, hooding their faces and subjected them to an “electronic noise machine” – the first use of its kind.

              and this:

              The unit’s methods were so extreme that a report written by military psychiatrists warned interrogation subjects could suffer “hysterical” dissociations, terror, delusions and suicidal ideation – even in training scenarios.

              do you think the torturers didnt know that it was wrong to torture? that they needed the courts to tell them that torture is wrong? do you think the state which then promoted these torturers and put them in charge of more torture was unaware of the torture?

              • deHaga@feddit.ukEnglish
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                1 month ago

                They were subjected to now banned methods of torture which involve sensory deprivation, such as completely covering someone’s head with a sack and bombarding them with noise.

                Those were the 5 techniques. Those SAS soldiers went through the same thing during training. Are you suggesting the British army tortured trainees?

                • huf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  1 month ago

                  yes. (also, yeah sure, i absolutely believe that what SAS soldiers went through during training is the same thing as they then inflicted on captured people abroad, yes sir)