I’m just planning to serve my instance with a onion address.
Did you ever go through with that? Cognitive dissonance would be triggered for me because lemy.lol is in Cloudflare’s walled-garden which is the world’s biggest adversary of the Tor community.
I think I have only encountered 1 onion lemmy instance so far.
It ends silent downvotes and forces transparency. Then they are inclined to reply and say “the mod action was justified for X… Y… Z.” Then the mod supporters upvote that, which in turn shows us what feedback and votes are sensible and which can be disregarded (e.g. when the reaction is unrelated to enforcing rules).
Makes no sense to support downvotes on the basis that upvotes don’t change. Lack of upvotes does not have the silencing effect that downvotes has, or the misleading sum of votes that conceals upvotes.
The current state of the ambiguous sidebar is cause for people to call the rules shit.
Having well articulated rules is not generally for the haters. It’s to properly guide those with goodwill – at least in this case, where it’s an unenforcable rule.
Of course the best fix is to move to a well-configured node.
I don’t see any solution for this in a public internet forum.
A good fix is to move this community to one of these instances:
because downvotes are rightfully disabled on those nodes.
“Justified” is far more subjective than “breaks a written rule”. People are indeed voting with their emotion (as opposed to assessing whether a rule was broken which is much less subjective).
“It is justified that that asshole who disagrees with me got censored”.
I agree with your whole thesis here, however unpopular. The voting is so arbitrary it’s useless.
The sidebar is unclear:
“Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.”
The side-bar still today fails to answer @[email protected]’s question. It does not specify how the voting should be used.
In principle, the interesting question is whether a mod action is consistent with the rules. Folks often post here because a mod took action against a rule-abiding post. Yet they get down-voted anyway because of distaste for the user who is being oppressed (thus the down-voter simply agrees w/oppressing opposing viewpoints).
Even IF the side-bar were well written to cover this, the crowd doesn’t give a shit. It’s plainly evident that voters vote to push their emotion. Too many undisciplined brains. So really, the only sensible fix is this.
Indeed avoiding Cloudflare is the ethical thing to do. But I just wanted to point out that sh.itjust.works is a Cloudflare node, so I suggest choosing a different fedi instance.