Cryptagion is a misogynist who argues against consent and thinks it’s great to threaten rape and sexual harassment, lie, suppress women’s speech,&use fascism to control others and what they say instead of discourse and democracy. Coward.
The WHO explicitly says it causes cancer, I cited that above. Can you explain what a non-epidemology study would look like for this research? Genuinely curious what you think this is
Pffft lmfao when was the last time you ate liver? Brain?
I meant nah to joining your sub meant to kill people through ignorance. Processed meats absolutely cause ass cancer. You have yet to say anything about how meat eaters should avoid processed meats.
In the past, people were eating things like liver, heart, brain, tongue, and other organs that have unique stores of vitamins (eg coq10). People only eat muscle meat now, rarely do they have access to organ meat that isn’t also processed. I’ve seen hunters in Alaska eat a fresh bleeding heart from a caribou - sure, THOSE guys are indicated for it. But your average person in the US is not eating a balanced diet on only carnivore and not getting enough fat soluble vitamins.
Last, our society has put carcinogens into almost everything we touch. Laundry detergent, soaps all have benzene rings. The DDT from the 70s is still here, just buried under topsoil. There’s glyphosate in every water table in the US. There’s mercury contamination from the Gold Rush in nearly the entire west coast and Appalachia. You are being simplistic with your reasoning here that because cancer rates rose, then that must mean meat is okay - lol, no. We just are poisoning ourselves, so much so that it is pushing at the boundaries of human survival: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458
Lol comparing it to cigarette smoke and then saying it’s totally fine is some manipulative shit. Cigarettes are less carcinogenic than sleeping in Chernobyl overnight, does that make cigarettes safe?
The WHO is more like the minimum. They only publish established science and are very slow. If they say it is true, then it is super true. However, it could be WORSE than what they say or there could be other issues, because the WHO only announces established things using exact language. If that means red meat gets classified as a Group 2A carcinogen, versus cigarettes and processed meat’s Group 1 designation, then they are correct. If you don’t understand what science is as a field, you can just say that.
Ps - why arent you posting about how processed meat is bad for carnivore dieters due to the cancer risk? You claim to care about others, yet crickets on that…
Nah, you actively promote the idea that the WHO and other cancer orgs are lying about red meat. I’m good not getting ass cancer
The WHO is accurate here, I quoted the relevant parts and the IARC press release confirms the WHO parts I quoted. YOUR statement that the evidence is weak and biased is not supported.
Post a real source next time.
Red meat was classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean exactly?
In the case of red meat, the classification is based on limited evidence from epidemiological studies showing positive associations between eating red meat and developing colorectal cancer as well as strong mechanistic evidence.
Limited evidence means that a positive association has been observed between exposure to the agent and cancer but that other explanations for the observations (technically termed chance, bias, or confounding) could not be ruled out.
Processed meat was classified as Group 1, carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean?
This category is used when there is sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in humans. In other words, there is convincing evidence that the agent causes cancer. The evaluation is usually based on epidemiological studies showing the development of cancer in exposed humans.
In the case of processed meat, this classification is based on sufficient evidence from epidemiological studies that eating processed meat causes colorectal cancer.
What types of cancers are linked or associated with eating red meat?
The strongest, but still limited, evidence for an association with eating red meat is for colorectal cancer. There is also evidence of links with pancreatic cancer and prostate cancer
What types of cancers are linked or associated with eating processed meat?
The IARC Working Group concluded that eating processed meat causes colorectal cancer. An association with stomach cancer was also seen, but the evidence is not conclusive
Lemmy will make up any excuse to be violent towards women, huh?
This is in no way how the adult entertainment industry works but whatever, men r so smart and if only they had tits they could rule the world /s
The WHO definitively states that processed meat causes cancer.
The original post doesn’t mention to avoid carcinogenic meats like processed meats at all. It claims meat cures cancer.
Ps appeal to authority isn’t a fallacy when it is directly related to the subject and supported by evidence in their body of work, which the WHO does both and which I cited directly.