PFOSS?
Partly Free Open Source Software?

Most EV charging is done over night during the most “off-peak” hours you can find. It won’t really be a problem.

Then where are giant lots filled with millions of unsold vehicles like in China? They don’t exist, because the government isn’t guaranteeing the value of the cars mandating their production. Because they aren’t doing the same thing.

Nearly all buisness loose money before they ramp up enough volume. That doesn’t mean they sold vehicles below cost.

Then why do fancy Fords cost $80k and not $40k or less?
If the government is guaranteeing them money per-vehicle built, why aren’t there massive lots flooded with a millions of unsold Fords? That’s what’s happening in China.

Yah. I was mostly joking.
Honestly I’d have a hard time selling the 2006 version as an “Action Movie”. It has a few action scenes, but the movie isn’t really built around them. They’re kinda tacked on.

But which one. There were two
1967 and 2006

To gain global leverage on other nations. They’re looking to replace the US as THE next dominant nation in the world. They want power.

You seem to want me to say money. No. Money is nothing but a number in a spreadsheet to a nation with its own fiat currency. They don’t care about money. China isn’t a capitalist nation in the way we know it. They recognize that money is inherently meaningless. Resources are what matter. Control of resources is Real power.

Not all subsidies are the same.
The US isn’t giving the car manufacturers money per car, to ensure they make as many as possible, and sell them as cheaply as possible. The US subsidies are just gifts the the auto makers for simply having factories and saying they are keeping the industry in the US. They don’t serve any greater goal.

Read some of my replies. There a number of ways to do subsidies to promote different goals and outcomes.

I don’t know what you’re trying to say here. That’s not even what this is about. You’re way off topic.

Lost what?

Did Tesla sell cars below cost

No. They didn’t.

They were the majority of the market because they were first. They didn’t drive anyone out, because nobody was there. They proved the market existed. “Created” it so to speak. In the last several years they were loosing market share each year, because there was real competition. Musk going full Rump just accelerated that trend. it didn’t start it.

Holey shit! That’s horrible. TIL Poison Ivy can be way worse than a terrible rash.

Did Tesla sell cars below cost to drive out competitors and take over the market?

Do we want the death of the car? Cars are useful. They have their place in the world.
We certainly want less of them in the middle of cities and small towns. But not zero, right?

What’ll you do when they start charging 50% more and there isn’t anyone else to buy from?

I hope China continues to subsidize the fuck out of the cars and I hope the world starts buying them

You kinda have to hope they do. What happens when all the other manufactures are gone and Chinese companies start charging what the cars actually cost, or more? That’s what amazon did. Now everybody with a baby is forked.

Don’t look now, but that ship has sailed. They are the global leaders in that tech.

I said exactly as much. Their takeover of solar and batteries are more or less done. Vehicles are next. I’m sure they have other markets planed after that.

inferior to swaddling your baby in poison ivy leaves.

Fun fact: I’m not allergic to poison ivy. It was a pretty cool super power growing up.

Kinda. Yah. That has very little to do with anything. Everyone already buys and sells whatever data they want. It doesn’t matter much who collects it. It’ll be available to the US if they want it.

Not all subsidies are the same. US car subsidies are only about making the companies as happy and profitable as possible.

China doesn’t care about profits. Their subsides are explicitly about making the vehicles super cheep to undercut everyone else. Two entirely different motivations and results.