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  • The racial analogue doesn’t fit. The existence of women-only spaces isn’t meant to discriminate against men because men are provided comparable alternatives, and they’re only discriminatory against trans women because they’re not provided an alternative.

    Trans women are women, but forcing women to emotionally react to trans women as if they were cis women is not a decision we can or should make for them. Feelings don’t care about your facts.

    I’ll try to come up with some conflicts of interest of the top of my head:

    • Women generally prefer restrooms to be gender segregated as a matter of privacy. Trans women who don’t have the same eldritch horrors of bodies likely don’t fall under the same privacy grouping. Some places have taken the step of making all restrooms unisex but women often don’t like it when that happens.
    • Lesbian romantic events exist for women to meet other women, and while generally we should treat trans women as women, in no universe can or should we impose that onto people’s sexuality.
    • Someone who’s had a traumatic experience with men and goes to a women-only space, only to discover that someone they’ve been talking to has been AMAB all along. It could be a healing or re-traumatizing experience, but it shouldn’t be imposed upon them as a matter of trans inclusion.
    • While trans women aren’t necessarily better at sports than cis women, when they are it’s reasonable to think their birth sex might play a part (whether right or wrong). That thought alone discourages participation in women’s sports.

  • The court ruling sounds reasonable. Cis women might not be comfortable around trans women in female only spaces and saying “just get over it” isn’t really progressive. Denial that there is a genuine conflict of interest here is also counterproductive.

    We also need to recognize that the median voter is supportive of trans rights in general but tends not to be on specific issues. Trying to brute force it with government policy will likely have the opposite effect.

    The concern is if this ends up extending the ability to exclude trans women from women-only spaces to places which are “generally” gender segregated like bathrooms or team sports. If we end up without measures that protect the right of trans women to participate in society then that would be unacceptable.






  • 2022 election: Labor vs. Scott Morrison. 2025 election: Labor vs. Peter Dutton.

    That’s why Labor won. They had an incompetent opposition. Also in 2022 there was a sense in the press that they wanted the LNP gone so they started accurately representing the choices. Labor needs to be on edge because if the LNP find someone competent to lead them then they’ll be on the ropes going forwards (probably won’t lose the next election though).

    And the NDIS reforms aren’t really them being right-wing, it’s them being competent. The NDIS is growing in cost ludicrously, and has become a haven for fraudulent service providers. It needs urgent reform, even if it pisses off Labor’s left flank.