I was jokingly saying the bush administration should have drummed up support for the iraq war by playing up the arabs inventing algebra. I was against the war from the start strongly however.

Courts shouldn’t have the authority to block things for the entire population used for legal reasons that are also used for illegal reasons by a subset of the population. Lawmakers should add a law saying that.

Like dual use, legal and illegal uses, of something can’t be banned. If a terrorist could use an encrypted app, a judge can’t decree that all encrypted apps can’t be used.

If they don’t, then nothing is safe from bad players, and we will have plenty of those in government. It is just common sense to. This is a horrible precedent not fit for a democratic country, but for an autocracy like china. Protecting the revenue of a company does not take precedence over the freedom of the population to communicate with the world as they see fit, and it’s none of the court’s business.

Can we disable these cameras and microphones at least? I can’t imagine people would have stood for this level of surveillance and control a few generations back. Something is fundamentally wrong with us, I seriously think some systematic pollutant is making us more docile and trusting. Not just taxoplasmosis which could infect up to 30% of the population and does inhibit the fear center, spread between cats and rodents the rodents that get it lose their fear of cats. But all mammals can get it. Spread through feces.

The chinese are doing what they can to get the west’s technology, and get their factories built for free, and in doing so getting a veritable veto on western leaders as they could nationalize any or all of those factories at any moment, a drastic move that would upend financial markets but still a powerful bargaining chip, no matter what western leaders say, they aren’t crossing China for real because of that, and the US president is Wall Street’s Bitch make no mistake. Also Israel’s and Russia’s Bitch. Israel first obviously, the Saudis, American oligarchs’ bitch, it’s a long list and idk the pecking order after Israel First that is undisputable, the guy and his party are compromized 7 ways from sunday. (7 ways from saudis too.)

So they are using the greed of the ruling class in the west against it. You can see where they are coming from, they are smart, and play the long game. Not a very good game for the workers of those factories, or people living next to the pollution however. But that is the cost they figure. The problems from all of that are as much, or more, of the fault of the industrialists and wall street that sold out their own countries to make an extra dollar on labor and environmental protections, undercutting unions and liberal democracies that since the great war had taken actual control over much of their governments and achieved a higher standard of living than any working people in the history of the world.

Now eroded, by cheatery. By this so called free trade, eroded most by cheating at the numbers however, changing the consumer price index calculations several times since the 1970s to understate it, 5-8% by the old standard, 2-3 by the new, just by 2008. Compound pay cuts. 1 minimum wage job used to support a family, buy a house, a used car, go out for a burger. Now you can’t do that with 4 minimum wage jobs, you would have shitty to non existant health insurance while doing it, no dentist. Certainly not buying a house. One missed check or two from homelessness. But I digress.

Whatever China is doing now, it’s part of a long game, what the US and west is doing, is short term chiseling of working people, and extracting borrowed money from the government.

Nothing says socialism like international investors owning 99 year leases on factories producing every piece of electronic junk sold in the west! /s Wait a minute, that’s called capitalism.

They do need protection you are talking nonsense. This is not the year 1100.

Wtf are you trying to argue an unrelated point?

They need client state status, would be taken/despoiled by more malign forces without it.

You are what making moral arguments? Those are neither here nor there. You are telling denmark to reject their patron? To surrender to the us. Brilliant take, maybe you can remind the us it is not nice to despoil them?

You say that. But they need client state status or would be subjugated. Or at best despoiled by corporations, left with poisoned water and coastal areas they rely on.

Denmark is a far sight better than the us/uk.

Oh thanks. I was referring to more previous interactions where I got mobbed by the group and thought the 1st time they were just super politically correct so kept defending myself.

I am sure I have good interactions all the time and only notice the ones where the group mobs me for cheap political points.

Tankies are the worst, I keep accidentally replying to posts on like hexbear and you can’t have real conversations, they just want to make cheap points, and will all spam en masse at you if you disagree with their braindead takes.