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      13 days ago

      ah yes, the pop-atomism of US succdems

      nukes totally stopped the US from proxywarring Russia and China

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          instead they’re being sanctioned to hell

          that talk of nuclear proliferation just feels really First Cold War coded, I don’t know, is there any theory about nuclear proliferation in service of anti-imperialism?

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            They’ve been sanctioned to hell, but by maintaining a nuclear-first doctrine they’ve been able to cut out their own sovereignty and maintain independence. This is being leveraged in the 2020s into increased trade with Russia and cooperation with China, and economic development. Each nation developing its own sovereignty needs to seriously consider pursuing nuclear deterrence to protect itself from imperialism, if it doesn’t have something like the Strait of Hormuz (which itself is a post-facto deterrence in practice).

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          Love or hate him (Hasan), his theory game is always on point. His actions within the Dem party are disappointing at most, I wouldn’t even say calling him a reformist is wrong. I do believe he is a genuine anti-imperialist and until he writes a book & runs for president I still like to believe his content has value.

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            I see him as one of the better social democrats, one that doesn’t waste time punching communists but nevertheless is severely limited by the failings of social democracy.

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              Bingo. I used to watch him a lot more but tbh there are far better content creators that cover the same stuff and they don’t ever really disappoint me with their rhetoric, Gotta remember at the end of the day these people are just entertainers and not revolutionaries; though that does not make them immune to criticism so on and so forth. Hope that makes sense

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                  12 days ago

                  Deprogram, Lady Izdihar, Daisa Sade, FD Signifier.

                  For content kinda like Hasan’s I like watching Yugopnik from Deprogram’s twitch VODs or videos, all 3 of the Deprogram guys do very solid YouTube videos you could watch yourself or send to literally anyone as an introduction, and the pod itself has soooo much content I can’t keep up w it.

                  For non Politics it’s jerma985, baby.

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            I do believe he is a genuine anti-imperialist

            Hasan supported a candidate that went on 4 combat tours in the Middle East, that guarded the Abu Ghraib concentration camp YEARS AFTER the human rights violations came out, that ran on the campaign promise of strengthening the Epstein military; and he only stopped supporting him when it turned out that the guy had raped an American woman.

            He also broke BDS by going on Haaretz (where he condemned the Al-Aqsa Flood Operation), and he very recently retweeted Ziohran’s October 7th statement where the motherfucker literally mourns the dead IOF terrorists.

            Not sure how he was before his collaboration with the DSA, but he’s certainly an American supremacist now.

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              Yeah the Platner stuff really made me sick tbh. And now he acts like he didn’t take every single chance he could to defend him when even just vaguely asked about “anti-imperialist” candidates. The military service is a big no for me for public office, military support included.

              The thing about Hasan specifically is that his rhetoric is usually 100% solid and very much something to appreciate, even within the DSA party lines, but you would be a Fool to believe that any of those guys (DSA) are real marxists or have interest in ending US hegemony. Hasan included, I’ll believe he’s a “class traitor” and not an elite when I see it. And tbh as time goes on he shows himself more and more as an elite…

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        I mean it stopped them from directly warring. Have nuclear powers ever directly gone to war? I feel like I might be forgetting a time they did, but I can’t recall one.

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      That’s what we’re trying to do. The assholes convincing everyone it isn’t necessary bcs they can just keep voting for the people who made the problem to begin with and that will somehow solve the problem are far more numerous and supported by the entire propaganda machine of the wealthiest empire in history and the personal social clout of every person profiting from the problem.

      Revolution requires class consciousness and organization. You’re encouraging adventurism which is counterproductive.

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        Be so fr rn. Violent revolution is such a silly idea in a country that allows corporations to legally kill people and a govt that will drone strike you. 1) Half this country doesn’t vote. 2) The Black Panthers weren’t a threat to the corpos because they had guns, they were a threat because the improved the material conditions of their communities without the need of the government. Hasan has never said to not help out locally. I’d love to see an clip if he has.

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          it doesn’t matter what piker says, he’s popular until he fucks up like his compatible left predecessors usually do – like platner.

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          Anything but violent revolution is a silly idea in a country under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie…

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              12 ga shotguns and bird shot. Wrist rocket slingshots. Guerilla tactics.

              What’s your plan to make the people with all the wealth and power give up without forcing you into a violent confrontation anyway, in the incredibly unlikely event you overcome their propaganda power and get a majority to vote for stripping their wealth and power?

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                Before or after mass incarcerations of political prisoners? You’re not going to use Guerulla tactics to change the hearts and minds of the liberals across the country. Other counties have taken steps to prevent unregulated exploitation. They’re not perfect but it’s a step in the right direction.

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          Recently, in France, high school studient have revolted. The gouv sent them riot police, and stun grenades have made some of this kids loose an eye or a hand. In the next days, a riot policeman got caught too far from his line by some studients, who used ultra violence on him, kicking his face many times. That is how the gouv decided to remove the dangerous stun grenades.

          As long as violence is the only way that works, violence is the way to use (unfortunately).

          If oppression could stop when we say please, their would not be social violences.