• lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    It’s because the left are bad at propaganda (maybe on purpose). Really stupid ppl need rituals. The right provides those. The left doesn’t want to manipulate ppl and doesn’t want to be a cult or look conform. So they don’t unite under one banner.

    The right has chants and new racist drinking songs every year. They like dressing up in uniforms, wave qestionable flags. This appeals to ppl who want to belong.

    If a large group of leftist parties could agree on things like that, the differences would just be factions within a united group.

    You know, like maga hats. Vague. Harmless at first glance. No difficult history. Unites the sheeple.

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      I dunno, the left does it differently. 1984 is one of the most acclaimed novels of the 20th century and it’s leftist propaganda. Star Trek is leftist propaganda. The Beatles are leftist propaganda. Mr. Rogers. The Muppets, countless other kids’ TV shows.

      We’ve got all the best tunes, the best messages and the depth to back it up. We just need to stop disagreeing about stupid shit, and stop treating discomfort like it’s a war crime.

      There are some fundamentals that we all agree on, like equality, the sanctity of human life and human dignity and the freedom to do what you want as long as it harms nobody.

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        7 hours ago

        I mean, I would be happy to work together, but historically speaking (almost) every time we did we were fucked over.

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            6 minutes ago

            Centrists typically win big wars between the left and right not because they have the numbers or ideological superiority, but because radicals and true believers are the most likely to volunteer to die and the most likely for the other side to actively target.

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        8 hours ago

        That propaganda isn’t propagandy enough, or do you run around every day with a Star Trek com badge or wear a Star Trek uniform to protests? And even if you did, how willing would the Average Joe be to follow your lead? Further more, these are commercial franchises. You can’t have some company have the power to change the meaning of them.

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          7 hours ago

          Ok fair point. But I think that just any level of critical thinking is leftist propaganda in a way. Science says there is a gender spectrum, autism is real, the climate is collapsing, our current economic models don’t work, sociopaths tend to get into power, all of these scientifically verifiable facts are considered leftist. True art that asks you fundamental questions is leftist, because examining the human condition leads you to conclusions that abhor suffering. That can be graffiti or a scene in a Pixar movie.
          I think my point is that the left don’t need manipulative propaganda, because we have truth on our side. And if we were able to rally properly, that would be enough.

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            6 hours ago

            That truth doesn’t say “be one of us and be proud”.

            Also, you have it reversed: We are not able to rally properly, because we don’t do manipulative propaganda. You have to get ppl off their asses nowadays. Most ppl are like really, really stupid. They need to be led. If we don’t do it, the fascists will. Also the regressives (often called conservatives) actively make ppl more stupid, because they know the left won’t harvest those sheeple.