Even in a situation where a nuclear weapon is the least-bad option, or when collateral damage is unavoidable, the murder of civilians is never ‘fair’. And I struggle to think of what nuking Tel Aviv would actually solve.
I speak Hebrew, and forced the algorithms to show me Israeli social media. Lots of those “civilians” are better off as radioactive dust.
There are a few who protest and show solidarity and put themselves in harm’s way to protect Palestinians. but they are such a tiny minority. Those few are amazing people.
I speak Hebrew, and forced the algorithms to show me Israeli social media. Lots of those “civilians” are better off as radioactive dust.
“Shitty people deserve shit” is one thing; “everyone who is behind BAD imaginary line or part of BAD ethnicity deserves to die!” is another fucking thing entirely.
Propaganda and normalization of cruelty is powerful, and takes generations to cure, unfortunately.
All we can do until then is to oppose their every act until they acquiesce to acting with a basic level of humanity, even if they still believe horrific things.
Unfortunately, a good portion of the world’s governments are still fine with enabling Israel and the sickened culture its been cultivating instead.
You know I know a group of people that feel the same way about the Palestinians.
Maybe we stop mass murdering people? I swear there’s some psy-op going on to convince people that people cannot change. Keeps us nice and divided. The plebs can’t rise up if they are too busy killing each other
the difference. I talk to payment regularly, and not one made me want to stab them mid sentence. meanwhile I lot count of how much Israeli will casually celebrate child murder or fondly remember their IOF war crimes.
it isn’t a both sides. one is genocidal and one has been on the receiving end of genocide for decades.
This isn’t a "sides’ conversation. You argued people cannot change and we should nuke babies in their beds. I support nobody gets nuked or bombed.
Obviously there may be no peaceful resolution, but I don’t cheer for dead civilians regardless of the side.
As you said
Lots of these civilians are better off as radioactive dust
Don’t see how that’s much better than the Israeli view of Palestine.
In an ideal world I’d like to see an end to the conflict and everyone in Israel that committed war crimes and their leadership brought before international court and punished for their crimes.
You know let’s hold those responsible responsible and not nuke or bomb anymore innocents.
And I know that may not be an option, but you’ll never get me to cheer for indiscriminate bombs or nukes.
Lots of these civilians are better off as radioactive dust
No one is seriously advocating for a genocide on the Israelis
One of these is not like the other
Like don’t get me wrong if someone today nuked portions of Israel to end the genocide that would be justified. I would understand that war is terrible and sometimes these things must happen for the greater good, but I still wouldn’t be jumping up and down with glee as millions of human lives are snuffed out. That’s just fucked up.
How many Israeli babies do I need to meet to celebrate their deaths? You tell me
Or do you believe that nukes skip the innocent and only kill those worthy of death? If we’ve developed that technology let me know
Perhaps it’s better to talk about how you allow social media to convince you that a significant portion of people should be nuclear dust.
You are retreating from that view which I appreciate.
I think Orwell summed up how I feel best. Seems like populations globally are being taught to hate their fellow man and celebrate war. We are being taught that these conflicts cannot be resolved peacefully and are just the way of the world. Some people just want to kill each other. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
but are we have a conversation on how deranged the average Israeli is, or one of military strategy?
Considering your comment regarding how many Israeli civilians were better as nuclear dust was in response to:
Even in a situation where a nuclear weapon is the least-bad option, or when collateral damage is unavoidable, the murder of civilians is never ‘fair’. And I struggle to think of what nuking Tel Aviv would actually solve.
No one is seriously advocating for a genocide on the Israelis, I’m just venting how frustrating it is to interact with them.
You’re kidding, right?
How many citations of serious advocacy for genocide against Israelis will it take for you to concede the point? Honest question. Give me a number, and I’ll provide.
I will not worry about a theoretical made up fictional genocide instead of a real one being done right now.
So you retract your previous bullshit point of “No one is seriously advocating for a genocide on the Israelis”, good, glad to hear it.
Your fucking comrade-in-arms in the comment section is justifying the murder of literal Israeli children, but hey, until the genocide starts happening, there’s no harm in normalizing it, right? Bad Ethnicity deserves it, anyway.
Fucking insanity.
Imagine if instead of fighting the Nazis and the Holocaust the allies were like “But if we kill nazis, then we will be the bad ones”
You do realize that there was a very serious suggestion of genocide of Germany tossed around even by the Western Allies, and mass ethnic cleansing occurred in the Soviet-controlled regions, right?
Did Alyah circa 2005 because I was young and bought all their propaganda, left a few later because apartheid and racism is so common its everywhere in Israel.
Most Israelis can leave. fuck, many are fleeing because Israel is collapsing, but only to build Zionists communities in other countries.
Problem even discuss flee might reported by neighbour or random person who hear conversation as criticism of nsdap. And then you fucked, ss pick you up and throw you into KZ. And if found during flee, same thing.
Imagine half of israel double agent for thug police, but not know who and even ask in direction to find out might get reported.
Bullshit, Israelis can leave with no problem.and if they stay they can protest or at least vote against genocide. But they don’t. the majority of Israelis are OK with the genocide.
Besides the small minority that is protesting against apartheid, and the teens who spent their 18-21 years in jail instead of serving the IOF, no adult Israeli is innocent.
Even in a situation where a nuclear weapon is the least-bad option, or when collateral damage is unavoidable, the murder of civilians is never ‘fair’. And I struggle to think of what nuking Tel Aviv would actually solve.
I speak Hebrew, and forced the algorithms to show me Israeli social media. Lots of those “civilians” are better off as radioactive dust.
There are a few who protest and show solidarity and put themselves in harm’s way to protect Palestinians. but they are such a tiny minority. Those few are amazing people.
“Shitty people deserve shit” is one thing; “everyone who is behind BAD imaginary line or part of BAD ethnicity deserves to die!” is another fucking thing entirely.
Dial back the fucking nationalist kool-aid.
you aren’t wrong, but I have to deal with Israelis regularly and damn, they are all high on that genocide Kool aid. it’s scary
Propaganda and normalization of cruelty is powerful, and takes generations to cure, unfortunately.
All we can do until then is to oppose their every act until they acquiesce to acting with a basic level of humanity, even if they still believe horrific things.
Unfortunately, a good portion of the world’s governments are still fine with enabling Israel and the sickened culture its been cultivating instead.
You know I know a group of people that feel the same way about the Palestinians.
Maybe we stop mass murdering people? I swear there’s some psy-op going on to convince people that people cannot change. Keeps us nice and divided. The plebs can’t rise up if they are too busy killing each other
the difference. I talk to payment regularly, and not one made me want to stab them mid sentence. meanwhile I lot count of how much Israeli will casually celebrate child murder or fondly remember their IOF war crimes.
it isn’t a both sides. one is genocidal and one has been on the receiving end of genocide for decades.
This isn’t a "sides’ conversation. You argued people cannot change and we should nuke babies in their beds. I support nobody gets nuked or bombed.
Obviously there may be no peaceful resolution, but I don’t cheer for dead civilians regardless of the side.
As you said
Don’t see how that’s much better than the Israeli view of Palestine.
In an ideal world I’d like to see an end to the conflict and everyone in Israel that committed war crimes and their leadership brought before international court and punished for their crimes.
You know let’s hold those responsible responsible and not nuke or bomb anymore innocents.
And I know that may not be an option, but you’ll never get me to cheer for indiscriminate bombs or nukes.
you haven’t met Israelis and it shows.
No one is seriously advocating for a genocide on the Israelis, I’m just venting how frustrating it is to interact with them.
And I’m taking with experience, I lived in Israel for a few years after I did Alyah.
One of these is not like the other
Like don’t get me wrong if someone today nuked portions of Israel to end the genocide that would be justified. I would understand that war is terrible and sometimes these things must happen for the greater good, but I still wouldn’t be jumping up and down with glee as millions of human lives are snuffed out. That’s just fucked up.
How many Israeli babies do I need to meet to celebrate their deaths? You tell me
Or do you believe that nukes skip the innocent and only kill those worthy of death? If we’ve developed that technology let me know
Let’s be clear, I was venting frustration. I don’t think nukes are good. Or mass acts of violence towards civilians.
but are we have a conversation on how deranged the average Israeli is, or one of military strategy?
Perhaps it’s better to talk about how you allow social media to convince you that a significant portion of people should be nuclear dust.
You are retreating from that view which I appreciate.
I think Orwell summed up how I feel best. Seems like populations globally are being taught to hate their fellow man and celebrate war. We are being taught that these conflicts cannot be resolved peacefully and are just the way of the world. Some people just want to kill each other. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Considering your comment regarding how many Israeli civilians were better as nuclear dust was in response to:
The latter.
You’re kidding, right?
How many citations of serious advocacy for genocide against Israelis will it take for you to concede the point? Honest question. Give me a number, and I’ll provide.
I will not worry about a theoretical made up fictional genocide instead of a real one being done right now.
Imagine if instead of fighting the Nazis and the Holocaust the allies were like “But if we kill nazis, then we will be the bad ones”
So you retract your previous bullshit point of “No one is seriously advocating for a genocide on the Israelis”, good, glad to hear it.
Your fucking comrade-in-arms in the comment section is justifying the murder of literal Israeli children, but hey, until the genocide starts happening, there’s no harm in normalizing it, right? Bad Ethnicity deserves it, anyway.
Fucking insanity.
You do realize that there was a very serious suggestion of genocide of Germany tossed around even by the Western Allies, and mass ethnic cleansing occurred in the Soviet-controlled regions, right?
Most in Nazi time not protest even though knew concentration camp. Because social pressure too high.
some did, the rest who didn’t allowed it to happen.
What happen to the one that did also part what stop other from follow.
Edit: “They cannot stop all of us” not really work if they actually can. Because most of population was brainwash enough to help stop them.
then they can do as I did, and leave Israel.
Did Alyah circa 2005 because I was young and bought all their propaganda, left a few later because apartheid and racism is so common its everywhere in Israel.
Most Israelis can leave. fuck, many are fleeing because Israel is collapsing, but only to build Zionists communities in other countries.
Problem even discuss flee might reported by neighbour or random person who hear conversation as criticism of nsdap. And then you fucked, ss pick you up and throw you into KZ. And if found during flee, same thing.
Imagine half of israel double agent for thug police, but not know who and even ask in direction to find out might get reported.
Bullshit, Israelis can leave with no problem.and if they stay they can protest or at least vote against genocide. But they don’t. the majority of Israelis are OK with the genocide.
Besides the small minority that is protesting against apartheid, and the teens who spent their 18-21 years in jail instead of serving the IOF, no adult Israeli is innocent.
Not talking about israeli, talking about nazi germany. Because you imply people could leave like you did.