Yes, please, let’s continue speedrunning the end of life on earth due to a runaway climate change event.
Something something the Rapture.
At least I will be saved!! 🙏✝️
I read the article it says the lobbying organisation behind air con, etc, doesn’t actually want this. They’d rather investment went towards newer tech as supplies of the old materials are dwindling.
Also we’ve already been selling equipment with the new shit for years in anticipation of phasing out the older stuff. Now we just get a few more years of limbo where noone knows what’s going to happen.
But also let me take this opporitunity to get on my soapbox. The new refrigerants are a BS half measure. We should just be going all the way to A3 hydrocarbons instead of this A2L crap. Hydrocarbons are way less environmentally damaging, and vastly superior refrigerants in every way except flamability. Sure it’s a risk having a couple pounds of liquified propane in your house, but there are easy ways to mitigate that risk. A2Ls already require leak detection and pump down mechanisms so it would just be the same in that regard. Plus how much more risky is it than the 30lbs of liquified propane a bunch of people already have sitting under grills directly adjacent to their house.
Like the whole administration’s motto/mission statement is literally just “Fuck you, that’s why.”
Bigger hole in ozone so we can all be orange.
This set of gases was developed because they don’t deplete the ozone so much, but they’re incredibly potent greenhouse gases, which is why there’s an effort to end their use.
Also old ozone depleting gasses are still used. They just can’t be manufactured or imported anymore. But prior to being banned, enough were stockpiled that they’re still only moderately expensive. We do still ocasionally get places like old grocery stores blowing 500lbs of good old ozone depleting R22 into the air when leaks happen. Hell, it was only in the past decade or so that R-12 finally got too expensive to be usable.
That’s actually the most anoying thing about the ban being delayed. We already know from experience that it would have taken decades to have a real effect and now it’s just going to take longer. We don’t have decades.
Right. One issue is that the US’s glidepath towards low GWP includes significant HFO usage (which is a PFAS) rather than speedrunning natural refrigerants which are the only sustainable long term solution. So we’ll likely have more warming, but less PFAS as a result of this, along with higher costs and more uncertainty. The focus needs to be on natural refrigerants though long term.
Exactly! There is way too much fearmongering about things like hydrocarbon refrigerants. I find it kind of funny how the EPA says you can’t have more than 1lb of R290 in a hermetically sealed refrigeration system but doesn’t give a shit that a large portion of the population has leaky 30lb tanks of the stuff sitting under their BBQ grills right next to their house.
Plus there’s CO2 although the main obstacle for that is just how heniously expensive those systems are. But a large part of that expense is just making transcritical refrigeration work. If we started building buildings with CO2 refrigeration in mind and started mandating installing geothermal heat exchanger loops for all new construction then you just use that to cool the CO2 and eliminate the whole transcritical issue and a massive chunk of the cost for those systems.
But of course they did 🖕🤬🤮
If no one else joins them then wouldn’t systems made in the US be difficult to export to any developed countries?
The US doesn’t actually make anything besides idiots though do they?
It is currently exporting lots of nice, smart people though.
Exporting shitheads too. Your craziest who want trans people exterminated are showing up in the UK now. We have enough of a problem with our own.
They already are. The US has been following along about a decade behind in refrigeration tech for a while now.
Fuck dem everythings
