Kenneth Law admitted charges relating to Canadian victims - but families say he should also be charged in the UK over 79 deaths in Britain.
  • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Fuck that. Blaming the person who provided the drugs is like trying to sue a rope company for providing the rope. You fucked up and didn’t pay attention to your kid, and your kid is dead now. That isn’t Mr. Law’s fault, that’s on you. You should have been a better parent, full stop. The “He was such a happy boy” bullshit is just cope. You know you ignored your child. I don’t give a fuck how harsh that seems, I’m tired of bad parents blaming society because they didn’t want to do the work.

    • Maeve@kbin.earth
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      2 days ago

      Maybe some didn’t want to. The question that should be foremost in my mind is: is the government and economic model strucured to allow it? This means universal, solid, world class pre-k - post-secondary education, universal, comprehensive health, shorter work weeks, living wages, robust universal social support such as nannies, parenting classes, housekeeping, etc.

    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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      2 days ago

      We’re not getting better parents anytime soon. Blaming them seems an oversimplified individual solution to a complex problem. Nobody has to do anything about those except claim that anybody that can’t meet your standards deserves to lose their child. Seriously, go and practice some empathy. That’s some seriously sociopathic cope on your plate.

      (I also don’t think Law should carry blame for this to be clear.)

      • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Parents are the first line of defense, period. They have the first chance to bring the child up in a loving, caring way. That doesn’t mean showering them with gifts and affection, that leads to its own problems, but it does mean taking the fucking tablet out of their hands more often, or, god forbid, not putting one in their hands in the first place. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to say that these parents did that, I’m sure they have their own sins they are guilty of, but you are right, we aren’t getting better parents any time soon, but the problem isn’t that they aren’t getting better, it’s that they are actively getting worse.

        And no, I’m not saying that anyone who can’t meet my standards deserves to lose their child. That’s just some bullshit you made up to try to prove a point you never had in the first place, which is just Strawmanning me with a touch of ad hominem. What I’m saying is that parents can’t just foist the blame on to others when it’s their failing that caused the bulk of the problems in the first place. I have plenty of empathy. My parents had to work their asses off to raise me and my sister in a way that let us both come out alive. I empathize with the parents that lose their children to circumstances beyond their control. War, accidents, illness. That’s where empathy lives.

    • lath@piefed.socialEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Absolutely nobody is perfect. And often enough, people don’t look because they themselves don’t want to be looked at and understand what that level of scrutiny feels like.

      Suffering comes in many forms and it really ain’t easy to show or ask of it in a way that works for everyone, every time.

      The help offered can only be hard work and poking in the dark for people hiding themselves very well, intentionally or not. And frankly, not many have that kind of willpower on either side.

  • [object Object]@lemmy.ca
    12·
    2 days ago

    I’m always torn on this case.

    I’ve had suicidal thoughts since I was like 6 or 7 years old. It’s always something I’ve thought about rather compulsively. I’ve never tried it, the only time I suffered from real suicidal impulses was when switching on to SSRIs.

    Personally, I think it’s a human right to be able to decide when to die, but I think there do need to be some guard rails on that. A depressive episode is too low a bar, it’s usually transitory, but MAID (medical assistance in dying) can be too high a bar and isn’t available globally. (The mental fitness requirements to consent to MAID I think are too strict sometimes, which is why my will outlines consent for it and power of attorney for MAID, and is why everyone should have a will made up)

    I do not think this guy murdered people. I don’t think what he did is the same as that. I do think he enabled unnecessary suicides, that he was unable to fully understand or judge his customer’s situations, and that and his poison could very well have been used for murder and he would never know.

    It was reckless and I’m sure in multiple cases was criminally negligent, and I think that’s the right case to build punishment and justice around.

    I just don’t think this was murder. I feel for the affected families. Some of them were robbed of family they could have helped, and that is tragic. I do think some victims would have sought out other means though. It’s just a tough case.

  • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    What are these comments??? He sold suicide pills to people looking to commit suicide. He’s on the hook for that. Trying pseudo philosophize about linguistic technicalities is trite mental masturbation.