October 12, nothing to celebrate
Feeling patriotic for any country by that logic would be incorrect.
NA and Europe have a colonial legacy. The middle east and indian subcontinent have their own history of imperialist aggravations, lang-grabbing, mass rapes and murders, etc. This is true for pretty much the rest of the world too (South America, Russia, east Asia).
There is no “clean” land, and it’s not even a spectrum issue, because issues of a similar weight have indeed occured in everywhere.
Singling out any particular country is nonsensical.
Correct. Patriotism is a form of xenophobia.
That’s not 100% correct. For example the island nation Mauritius didn’t have humans on it and has therefore been colonised and fought over without a genocide, then became independent in 1968.
Also, there are currently areas of land no nation claims for itself. They may become independent nations. We’ll see.
So only one island on the whole planet
idk it was an example i knew right away. it’s possible there are more. but to go unnoticed by humans until the slaughtering is over, they must be hard to find regions like this small island.
Aren’t all states the result of colonialism or warfare if you go back far enough?
Yes but framing it that way doesn’t allow the nations with older colonial claims to feel superior to the newer ones so they set the cutoff at about 300 years.
Its very important to close the gate at the right point in time so you feel the most important and the only person worthy of pity. For from pity come guilt and guilt is a wonderful commodity to be wielded and leveraged. But its also something you don’t want to waste.
Ugh, those garish folks are New Horror, we Old Horror would never stoop to those levels.
Also the framign of the meme allows for patriotism in so called socialist states, as they are always labeled as (by themselves and by tankies) anti imperialist and antk colonialist.
So your answer to the ship of theseus is that any ship is the ship of theseus.
Underrated comment. This should be obvious, it’s not just a NA/EU issue.
Perhaps patriotism is the wrong word, but I do feel a certain belief in those around me. At the bottom of my heart I know that my community, local and across my state, can be better. If I didn’t believe that I suppose I’d be among those fleeing for greener pastures rather than investing in where I am. These people may be incredibly misguided, but having hope for a better world means believing that everywhere and everyone can begin the process of healing.
What is the feeling when you’re pleased with the decisions that people who live in the same place as you are making, because their decisions show a willingness to make personal sacrifices for the greater good of humanity or the planet?
This is a real thing? I’ve never felt this.
Solidarity, harmony.
Camaraderie?
Patriotism refers to a valid sense of feeling connected with your roots I’d say, but the word comes from world war 2 meaning “worshipper of a country” is a very nationalist term. The patro part means father and gives patriarchical vibes as well. For this reason I think it is better to relight this word.
Playing on the word root, we could sprout the word “rootling” meaning “one who feel connectedness to a community”.
The patro part means father and gives patriarchical vibes as well
You’re very close!
Emphasis on patriotism for living in a colonialist state
It wasnt a comment to refute the message, rather a critique of the word itself.
“OMG I’m so proud to have been shat out on this specific plot of land defined by imaginary lines!!!” - Patriots
If your national anthem isn’t The Internationale I don’t care what you think.
Just to add another layer to this - a “patriot” might additionally be someone who actively approves of how their government behaves, and the country’s history, to the point where they’ve contributed to it
What if my patriotism only extends to will to exist outside the shithole that is the United States lol
To be fair, Canada and kther nations have the potential to fall down. I’m already seeing the cracks start to form
btw imperialist does what imperialistic does, and is a real word
I want to post that too, how do you do it?
It’s an emoji “on loan” from the folks at Hexbear, who have their own collection. Just copy down one of the following:
        The text in square brackets [] is alt-text, so you can change it it if you want (e.g. AmeriKKKa —> AmeriKKKan) without affecting what is shown. I believe that the text in double-quotes has to start with “emoji” for Lemmy to expect it as an emoji.
Enjoy
As a Canadian, I approve of this message
Hell yeah
Idk why you’re downvoted, but I stand by the fact that I 100% agree with you.
