It’s disappointing how well the “question my personal behavior, question the cause” narrative has taken root. Piker is human. He can have some great points, good intentions, and the charisma to become a voice in the moment. It doesn’t make him inviolable. He has his flaws, shortcomings, and blindspots like all of us. He treats his dog like property and a set piece. Want to make him a better candidate for leadership of the cause? Demand that he do better and remind him that just because he’s on the right track most of the time he’s not above reproach. If you just want a leftist version of Trump whose shortcomings we ignore because they get done what we want done; fuck you.
The tactic of “They go low, we go high!” is suicidal.
We had to drop demands for stronger secularism, both to court moderate christians into the left and in the hopes of an actual leftist Obama appearing. All it ended up with is that any time christian fundamentalists won more and more power, the loudest answer was “they’re not real christians, real christians don’t force anything onto other people, instead they’re ought to love their atheist neighbors, their Muslim neighbors…”.
Now we are ought to “kill our idols”, who sometimes are smaller creators (cough cough cancel culture), sometimes bigger ones, and we were ought to show our moral superiority to Asmongold (or whatever grifter is the hottest currently) fans by backstabbing ours after the slightest rumors. Humans are social animals, not “individualist thinkers” that are able to come to conclusions on their own. Annoying leftist creators are kind of necessary.
We are rushing into a gunfight with no guns, not even knives, but nothing besides a smug feeling of moral superiority. We as well next should go back to the forest, or at least live on a “self-sustaining farm”.
It’s not suicidal, it’s self-awareness that we are facing an enemy that is more than willing and is currently eradicating us and will not stop doing so until we respond with the same force. Purity tests for leadership result in never finding a candidate because everyone is human, everyone has shortcomings; you take the best ally you can get. But you don’t have to compromise or accept their flaws as ongoing or excuse them from working on them during the process. Judge people’s quality of character on how they respond to criticism of their previous actions and whether they reflect on their behavior, acknowledge it might have been a poor choice, and amend their way, don’t just double down and deflect and defend because you like them most of the time. If a up-and-coming leader can be forgiven transgressions by their supporters when they’re a nobody they’re building a base that will forgive their worse transgressions later when they’re somebody and have the power. Demand that your leaders forever remain accountable to the critique of the people they claim to represent or you’re just propping up a left-wing populist as a reaction to the right.
You speak like you have the luxury. This was years ago and the collapse of your country is imminent. Do you really want to start burning a leader at the stake with some flaws in favor of a gang of criminals? This is precisely why you’re in this predicament. Look around you. Do better yourself. You have little choice but compromise at the moment. Burn him at the stake later when you’re not actively dying as a country. So goddamn unbelievable and insufferable.
I do have the luxury. If we’re doing this we’re all in, and while I’ll take any ally I can get, I’m going to continue to fight for the rights of non-human life until my last breath and not just seek to replace a right-wing populist with a left-wing one just because he’s on my team. If you’re willing to compromise your personal morality because your favorite dude has compromised theirs instead of saying “hey, I’m with you 90% of the time but here’s where your slipping; do better”; shit.
Nah, this is the same shit y’all did last time with Harris. You wouldn’t vote for a genocide apologist, so you’d rather have a pedophile, genocide accomplice and sociopath. Incredibly myopic.
Nah. I’d burn through every last one of you for whatever you have to offer that aligns with my goals, and take the wins over my enemies where I can get them. If that win means my enemy is destroyed and I have to fight you on the other side, we’ll deal with that when we get there. If the fight results in both of you destroying one another; fuck yeah, the path forward has been cleared.
His dog lives a better life than most humans do and is well loved and taken care of. Source: Every single person who knows her in real life and interacts with them. Hell you can see it from their interactions on stream but you wouldn’t know that since you don’t watch clearly.
His dog lives a better life than most humans do and is well loved and taken care of.
The experience of life, for humans and animals, is more than just being “taken care of”. Your measure of “love” still treats a dog like an object and measures the quality of the human-canine relationship in terms of hierarchy; I give you X, therefore I expect you to give me Y. Gross, both of you.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. Kaya has a great life and is not treated like an object simply because her bed is on stream. News flash if your dog likes you they will actually choose to be around you even when you are just doing boring stuff and sitting at a desk and especially when they understand their routines and know they have a dog walk at a specific time each day and have already done other enrichment activities. Hasan/Kaya’s schedule isn’t unknown if you watched a few streams you would know it, but again you clearly don’t watch. They can simply relax because they know they have times of the day they will get to run around and get their energy out. Kaya is well trained too, which clearly shows a bond between Hasan and her and its extremely common to use treats during training.
A dog is like a child, it has no legal rights to its self and lacks the ability to withdraw from an abusive situation and seek a better environment or companion. It just makes do with what is offered even if its base needs (food/shelter/water) are met. Of course it will “love” whoever provides that because that’s all they have, and they’ll suffer the less savory parts in between because, again, that’s all they have.
Do you really think that so long as basic needs are met, training/conditioning another living being to fit your schedule and harsh rebukes when inconvenienced by their expression of independent mind are acceptable?
That your default insult is “get a job” is telling. You want my labor value but you don’t want my free will. What you’d like is for me to be so invested in expending my labor elsewhere I don’t have the time or energy to question and confront you and your values. Not gonna happen.
I’ll provide my labor when and where I see fit and to causes I feel are worthy of the effort, not because some random person on the internet demands it or attempts to undercut my argument by implying making it is a misuse of my time. Like all people, I am free to do with my existence as I please, when I please, and while I value what we can achieve together as a society, it’s still a mass of individuals and not a mindless collective. You keep taking the time to respond, why are you here saying “get a job” and not focused on your own “job”?
I’m aware you don’t care, that’s why I’m here to remind you and everyone else that you don’t actually care about individuals, only what they can provide.
It’s disappointing how well the “question my personal behavior, question the cause” narrative has taken root. Piker is human. He can have some great points, good intentions, and the charisma to become a voice in the moment. It doesn’t make him inviolable. He has his flaws, shortcomings, and blindspots like all of us. He treats his dog like property and a set piece. Want to make him a better candidate for leadership of the cause? Demand that he do better and remind him that just because he’s on the right track most of the time he’s not above reproach. If you just want a leftist version of Trump whose shortcomings we ignore because they get done what we want done; fuck you.
The tactic of “They go low, we go high!” is suicidal.
We had to drop demands for stronger secularism, both to court moderate christians into the left and in the hopes of an actual leftist Obama appearing. All it ended up with is that any time christian fundamentalists won more and more power, the loudest answer was “they’re not real christians, real christians don’t force anything onto other people, instead they’re ought to love their atheist neighbors, their Muslim neighbors…”.
Now we are ought to “kill our idols”, who sometimes are smaller creators (cough cough cancel culture), sometimes bigger ones, and we were ought to show our moral superiority to Asmongold (or whatever grifter is the hottest currently) fans by backstabbing ours after the slightest rumors. Humans are social animals, not “individualist thinkers” that are able to come to conclusions on their own. Annoying leftist creators are kind of necessary.
We are rushing into a gunfight with no guns, not even knives, but nothing besides a smug feeling of moral superiority. We as well next should go back to the forest, or at least live on a “self-sustaining farm”.
It’s not suicidal, it’s self-awareness that we are facing an enemy that is more than willing and is currently eradicating us and will not stop doing so until we respond with the same force. Purity tests for leadership result in never finding a candidate because everyone is human, everyone has shortcomings; you take the best ally you can get. But you don’t have to compromise or accept their flaws as ongoing or excuse them from working on them during the process. Judge people’s quality of character on how they respond to criticism of their previous actions and whether they reflect on their behavior, acknowledge it might have been a poor choice, and amend their way, don’t just double down and deflect and defend because you like them most of the time. If a up-and-coming leader can be forgiven transgressions by their supporters when they’re a nobody they’re building a base that will forgive their worse transgressions later when they’re somebody and have the power. Demand that your leaders forever remain accountable to the critique of the people they claim to represent or you’re just propping up a left-wing populist as a reaction to the right.
You speak like you have the luxury. This was years ago and the collapse of your country is imminent. Do you really want to start burning a leader at the stake with some flaws in favor of a gang of criminals? This is precisely why you’re in this predicament. Look around you. Do better yourself. You have little choice but compromise at the moment. Burn him at the stake later when you’re not actively dying as a country. So goddamn unbelievable and insufferable.
I do have the luxury. If we’re doing this we’re all in, and while I’ll take any ally I can get, I’m going to continue to fight for the rights of non-human life until my last breath and not just seek to replace a right-wing populist with a left-wing one just because he’s on my team. If you’re willing to compromise your personal morality because your favorite dude has compromised theirs instead of saying “hey, I’m with you 90% of the time but here’s where your slipping; do better”; shit.
Nah, this is the same shit y’all did last time with Harris. You wouldn’t vote for a genocide apologist, so you’d rather have a pedophile, genocide accomplice and sociopath. Incredibly myopic.
Nah. I’d burn through every last one of you for whatever you have to offer that aligns with my goals, and take the wins over my enemies where I can get them. If that win means my enemy is destroyed and I have to fight you on the other side, we’ll deal with that when we get there. If the fight results in both of you destroying one another; fuck yeah, the path forward has been cleared.
You sound decidedly sociopathetic. Good job.
What happened to the suggestion I compromise now and deal with him later? Those are your words.
His dog lives a better life than most humans do and is well loved and taken care of. Source: Every single person who knows her in real life and interacts with them. Hell you can see it from their interactions on stream but you wouldn’t know that since you don’t watch clearly.
The experience of life, for humans and animals, is more than just being “taken care of”. Your measure of “love” still treats a dog like an object and measures the quality of the human-canine relationship in terms of hierarchy; I give you X, therefore I expect you to give me Y. Gross, both of you.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. Kaya has a great life and is not treated like an object simply because her bed is on stream. News flash if your dog likes you they will actually choose to be around you even when you are just doing boring stuff and sitting at a desk and especially when they understand their routines and know they have a dog walk at a specific time each day and have already done other enrichment activities. Hasan/Kaya’s schedule isn’t unknown if you watched a few streams you would know it, but again you clearly don’t watch. They can simply relax because they know they have times of the day they will get to run around and get their energy out. Kaya is well trained too, which clearly shows a bond between Hasan and her and its extremely common to use treats during training.
A dog is like a child, it has no legal rights to its self and lacks the ability to withdraw from an abusive situation and seek a better environment or companion. It just makes do with what is offered even if its base needs (food/shelter/water) are met. Of course it will “love” whoever provides that because that’s all they have, and they’ll suffer the less savory parts in between because, again, that’s all they have.
Do you really think that so long as basic needs are met, training/conditioning another living being to fit your schedule and harsh rebukes when inconvenienced by their expression of independent mind are acceptable?
Get a job
The dog is fine, get a job
Nah. I refuse to buy into the system. Eat shit and die, capitalist.
Labor is not exclusive to capitalism dumbass
That your default insult is “get a job” is telling. You want my labor value but you don’t want my free will. What you’d like is for me to be so invested in expending my labor elsewhere I don’t have the time or energy to question and confront you and your values. Not gonna happen.
You can go get that job now
I’ll provide my labor when and where I see fit and to causes I feel are worthy of the effort, not because some random person on the internet demands it or attempts to undercut my argument by implying making it is a misuse of my time. Like all people, I am free to do with my existence as I please, when I please, and while I value what we can achieve together as a society, it’s still a mass of individuals and not a mindless collective. You keep taking the time to respond, why are you here saying “get a job” and not focused on your own “job”?
Don’t care didn’t ask, get busy loser
I’m aware you don’t care, that’s why I’m here to remind you and everyone else that you don’t actually care about individuals, only what they can provide.