There is ample evidence that Brexit has damaged the UK’s economy.Putting up trade barriers, higher import prices and uncertainty have made the UK poorer.
Nice analysis. I agree with every bit of it. IMO, Brexit was among the most ignorant, naive and stupid things that the UK ever did. If the Suez canal crisis was the “beginning of the end”, then Brexit might have been the final nail in the coffin.
And I hate to admit, but if I look at the current global situation, I think europeans and brits will eventually need to get their shit together and move closer once again. So every lost % of the UK’s bleeding economy will also be our European loss by having a weaker partner in times to come.
So every lost % of the UK’s bleeding economy will also be our European loss
Absolutely this, not only is UK a weaker partner, but the economic loss has also been on the European side, although not as much, and the loss is distributed among 27 countries. But still this wasn’t good for anybody except maybe Russia?
I’m from Denmark, and UK used to be our biggest export market in the 70’s. Today UK is only number 5! ( not 120 just 5 😱 ).
UK is now after USA, Germany, Sweden and China.
Seems like the tendency now for UK is clearly to move closer to EU again, and we are interested on both sides, and the Ukraine war is an amazing catalyst for it, together with USA becoming a rogue nation and completely unreliable. UK had hoped for strong cooperation with USA, but I don’t think that seems very attractive anymore.
Hej du 🇩🇰🇪🇺 you mentioned Russia and it benefitting from European division. This is actually something thats on my mind for quite some time now. The only nation benefitting from Brexit, Farage, Trump, Orban, Andrzej Duda, AfD, Le Pen, etc. is Russia. I never found any hard evidence or proof that their misonformation campain or is the reason for let’s say Brexit, but it’s hard to believe that it’s all just an coincidence.
Personally, I’d like to forget the last 10 years and let the UK formally reenter the EU, but no half-assed cherry picking this time. We are all europeans and we need to stand and fall together.
Also, I am deeply afraid of the AfD movement in my home country Germany. A Dexit or Gerexit (?) would surely mean an end to all of Germanys exporting markets. And guess whose party’s members regularly call for deeper integration with Russia? Yep.
There was evidence that Russia influnced the Brexit election heavily, and for instance Farage and Boris Johnson were supported by Russia. But weirdly since conservatives and even Boris Johnson became PM after the election, an investigation into the Russian influence was stopped.
We have seen Russian influence in many countries, positively proven in for instance USA, France, Moldova and Hungary.
We can only hope that when Russia lose the war against Ukraine, that Russia will focus more on restoring Russia than undermining Europe, USA and NATO. Although they may have succeeded in destroying NATO already.
AfD nearing 30% is worse than I expected just a few months ago. 30% is insane for a protest party in a reasonably functioning democracy. Clearly there must be issues that are handled very poorly in Germany by the traditional parties. The first that comes to mind is of course tightening of immigration. Because AFAIK that is one of the biggest points AfD is pushing.
But probably also issues for lower income workers, which AfD votes may be a protest against, although I bet it will quickly become worse if AfD actually got real influence, as they are an extreme right wing party.
I doubt Germany would leave EU, AFAIK EU support remains pretty strong in Germany, with roughly 70% of the German population viewing EU positively.
Even if Germans were somewhat unhappy with EU, it would be incredibly stupid to leave, my guess is that it would be even worse for Germany than it was for UK. But it would also be bad for EU, and could push Europe into a recession, causing a double whammy for Germany, with less share of a smaller market.
Regarding AfD all I can say is that in my own country we had a similar situation, but when the other parties woke up and reacted to the main problems, and after that party (Danish peoples party) got some actual influence, their popularity fell back to way more moderate levels. Hopefully this will happen in Germany too, before AfD becomes too dangerous.
AfD may gain some influence, but they will not be able to pull Germany out of EU.
Nice analysis. I agree with every bit of it. IMO, Brexit was among the most ignorant, naive and stupid things that the UK ever did. If the Suez canal crisis was the “beginning of the end”, then Brexit might have been the final nail in the coffin.
And I hate to admit, but if I look at the current global situation, I think europeans and brits will eventually need to get their shit together and move closer once again. So every lost % of the UK’s bleeding economy will also be our European loss by having a weaker partner in times to come.
Absolutely this, not only is UK a weaker partner, but the economic loss has also been on the European side, although not as much, and the loss is distributed among 27 countries. But still this wasn’t good for anybody except maybe Russia?
I’m from Denmark, and UK used to be our biggest export market in the 70’s. Today UK is only number 5! ( not 120 just 5 😱 ).
UK is now after USA, Germany, Sweden and China.
Seems like the tendency now for UK is clearly to move closer to EU again, and we are interested on both sides, and the Ukraine war is an amazing catalyst for it, together with USA becoming a rogue nation and completely unreliable. UK had hoped for strong cooperation with USA, but I don’t think that seems very attractive anymore.
Hej du 🇩🇰🇪🇺 you mentioned Russia and it benefitting from European division. This is actually something thats on my mind for quite some time now. The only nation benefitting from Brexit, Farage, Trump, Orban, Andrzej Duda, AfD, Le Pen, etc. is Russia. I never found any hard evidence or proof that their misonformation campain or is the reason for let’s say Brexit, but it’s hard to believe that it’s all just an coincidence.
Personally, I’d like to forget the last 10 years and let the UK formally reenter the EU, but no half-assed cherry picking this time. We are all europeans and we need to stand and fall together.
Also, I am deeply afraid of the AfD movement in my home country Germany. A Dexit or Gerexit (?) would surely mean an end to all of Germanys exporting markets. And guess whose party’s members regularly call for deeper integration with Russia? Yep.
There was evidence that Russia influnced the Brexit election heavily, and for instance Farage and Boris Johnson were supported by Russia. But weirdly since conservatives and even Boris Johnson became PM after the election, an investigation into the Russian influence was stopped.
We have seen Russian influence in many countries, positively proven in for instance USA, France, Moldova and Hungary.
We can only hope that when Russia lose the war against Ukraine, that Russia will focus more on restoring Russia than undermining Europe, USA and NATO. Although they may have succeeded in destroying NATO already.
AfD nearing 30% is worse than I expected just a few months ago. 30% is insane for a protest party in a reasonably functioning democracy. Clearly there must be issues that are handled very poorly in Germany by the traditional parties. The first that comes to mind is of course tightening of immigration. Because AFAIK that is one of the biggest points AfD is pushing.
But probably also issues for lower income workers, which AfD votes may be a protest against, although I bet it will quickly become worse if AfD actually got real influence, as they are an extreme right wing party.
I doubt Germany would leave EU, AFAIK EU support remains pretty strong in Germany, with roughly 70% of the German population viewing EU positively.
Even if Germans were somewhat unhappy with EU, it would be incredibly stupid to leave, my guess is that it would be even worse for Germany than it was for UK. But it would also be bad for EU, and could push Europe into a recession, causing a double whammy for Germany, with less share of a smaller market.
Regarding AfD all I can say is that in my own country we had a similar situation, but when the other parties woke up and reacted to the main problems, and after that party (Danish peoples party) got some actual influence, their popularity fell back to way more moderate levels. Hopefully this will happen in Germany too, before AfD becomes too dangerous.
AfD may gain some influence, but they will not be able to pull Germany out of EU.