• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        5 days ago

        They haven’t. The procedures in place only work if the folks in charge are honorable and the voters are trustworthy.

        What we have, in the modern day, is a deep skepticism of elections outside of the NATO block and a naive presumption of infallibility inside the block (among liberals, mostly assuming their guys win).

        In the US, in particular, even liberals are increasingly distrustful of the physical apparatus of vote collection and tabulation. It’s been a long time coming (2000 and 2004 being very nakedly and obviously stolen races). But trustworthiness has taken a real nosedive since 2024.

        A recent survey conducted by the Center for Transparent and Trusted Elections at UC San Diego found that only 60% of respondents were confident votes in the midterm elections will be counted accurately.

        • AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          5 days ago

          You need to stop looking at americans as some sort of normal people whose problems apply to everyone else.

          Motherfuckers can’t even get the concept of national ID cards right.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 days ago

            Motherfuckers can’t even get the concept of national ID cards right.

            There’s a sharp dispute over the purpose of such a card. Do you want cards to rapidly integrate people into your society? Or do you want them to strictly exclude and segregate people into immuntable castes?

            Hard to create a single universal document if you can’t agree on that premise.

            • AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              5 days ago

              It’s just a national proof of citizenship it’s not that deep.

              I swear yall americans way too fucking dumb to be your own country

              • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                4 days ago

                It’s just a national proof of citizenship it’s not that deep.

                That’s how the SSN was pitched, sure. Then it became a reliable unique identifier and started getting used for everything.

                I swear yall americans way too fucking dumb to be your own country

                Which country do all the smart people live in, again?