I don’t live in the us nor I plan to visit them anytime soon.
But even then, it’s not my job to go figure if an employer pays their workers a living wage before going there. However, you don’t have to worry about me not tipping because, as I said, it’s not in my plans to visit that shithole. So I won’t have to figure if people are getting paid where I go to eat.
I still fail to see how is that my problem. I don’t live in the US so I don’t have to tip waiters for them to make a living when I go out to eat.
And, again, it’s not on me. If the owner is not paying them a living wage in the US, I don’t see how is it the customer’s fault and responsibility to cover for what the owner is not paying.
And, again, it’s not on me. If the owner is not paying them a living wage in the US, I don’t see how is it the customer’s fault and responsibility to cover for what the owner is not paying.
It’s the customer’s responsibility to avoid places that exploit their workers.
I’m not paying what the employer should be paying. And, once again, it’s not my problem. I don’t live in that shithole and I won’t be visiting it in the near future (honestly, I doubt I’d ever visit it).
Mate, are you trying to guilt trip me into solving a problem from a country that’s a bloody ocean away from me just because its shitty system is greedy as fuck and the citizens are too complacent to do what they should be doing (aka a fucking revolution)?
Solve your own problems instead of blaming others hoping for them to do it.
Solve your own problems instead of blaming others hoping for them to do it.
I try. Keep blaming capitalism’s victims for its excesses. You’re acting like all the fat entitled American tourists you whine about. Especially the ones with MAGA hats. Your attitude toward working people is 100% identical to the worst one of them.
I’m not blaming you for American tipping culture. I’m saying you hate the working poor.
You know what happens if the tips don’t make up the rest right? Your employer pays it, I’m not saying you’re not going to get fired or that there has never been a situation where it’s abused but if someone is actually making 2.13 an hour they’re being human trafficked.
You know what happens if the tips don’t make up the rest right? Your employer pays it,
Legally, they’re supposed to, but that never actually happens. Even if the employee knows they should get it and is willing to push the issue, they just get immediately fired.
They could then sue for backpay, but the most that will happen is the employer is forced to pay exactly the amount owed and the lawyer gets a big chunk of that for their fees. Nothing else happens to the employer. That’s the best case scenario.
So the solution is as simple as don’t tip anymore. If everyone stops tipping, it won’t be long before every tip-dependant service worker stops working. And without them, the whole restaurant industry collapses. You’ll see a living wage being established in the sector in no time.
Don’t worry. I’d never go out to eat in the us. I’m not a fan of subsidizing a restaurant owner. But yeah, good luck with that. Doing so would mean doing an actual protest that would harm the capital, and we can’t have that in the us. Best they can do is write a really nasty banner and go out on a non-working day (we wouldn’t want to sligthly annoy the capital class) to protest. I see it’s working wonders there…
You knew they were being exploited and ate there anyway.
I don’t live in the us nor I plan to visit them anytime soon.
But even then, it’s not my job to go figure if an employer pays their workers a living wage before going there. However, you don’t have to worry about me not tipping because, as I said, it’s not in my plans to visit that shithole. So I won’t have to figure if people are getting paid where I go to eat.
If it’s a restaurant with table service and they’re not bragging about how much they’re paying their employees, they’re exploiting them.
I mean, they’re exploiting them either way, but they’re not paying them 2.13 an hour and expecting tips to make up the rest.
I still fail to see how is that my problem. I don’t live in the US so I don’t have to tip waiters for them to make a living when I go out to eat.
And, again, it’s not on me. If the owner is not paying them a living wage in the US, I don’t see how is it the customer’s fault and responsibility to cover for what the owner is not paying.
It’s the customer’s responsibility to avoid places that exploit their workers.
I’m not paying what the employer should be paying. And, once again, it’s not my problem. I don’t live in that shithole and I won’t be visiting it in the near future (honestly, I doubt I’d ever visit it).
I know. But they’re not.
It’s a problem for the workers you don’t care about, yes.
Mate, are you trying to guilt trip me into solving a problem from a country that’s a bloody ocean away from me just because its shitty system is greedy as fuck and the citizens are too complacent to do what they should be doing (aka a fucking revolution)?
Solve your own problems instead of blaming others hoping for them to do it.
I try. Keep blaming capitalism’s victims for its excesses. You’re acting like all the fat entitled American tourists you whine about. Especially the ones with MAGA hats. Your attitude toward working people is 100% identical to the worst one of them.
I’m not blaming you for American tipping culture. I’m saying you hate the working poor.
You know what happens if the tips don’t make up the rest right? Your employer pays it, I’m not saying you’re not going to get fired or that there has never been a situation where it’s abused but if someone is actually making 2.13 an hour they’re being human trafficked.
Legally, they’re supposed to, but that never actually happens. Even if the employee knows they should get it and is willing to push the issue, they just get immediately fired.
They could then sue for backpay, but the most that will happen is the employer is forced to pay exactly the amount owed and the lawyer gets a big chunk of that for their fees. Nothing else happens to the employer. That’s the best case scenario.
So the solution is as simple as don’t tip anymore. If everyone stops tipping, it won’t be long before every tip-dependant service worker stops working. And without them, the whole restaurant industry collapses. You’ll see a living wage being established in the sector in no time.
Good luck with that. Also, better not ever eat at the same place twice.
Don’t worry. I’d never go out to eat in the us. I’m not a fan of subsidizing a restaurant owner. But yeah, good luck with that. Doing so would mean doing an actual protest that would harm the capital, and we can’t have that in the us. Best they can do is write a really nasty banner and go out on a non-working day (we wouldn’t want to sligthly annoy the capital class) to protest. I see it’s working wonders there…
No, the wait staff making less than minimum wage are who would be harmed. Capital doesn’t give a rats ass as long as they aren’t paying.
They’re supposed to. You know what happens when they don’t? You will never ever even think of caring.
The getting fired part is important