• tacosanonymous@mander.xyz
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    12 days ago

    Wasn’t Gandalf pretty late to the party? Like, he was hanging out with Illuvatar until about the time Legolas was born?

    • reisub@discuss.tchncs.de
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      12 days ago

      The Istari came to Middleearth about the time that Sauron made his home in Dol Guldur and the forest was renamed Mirkwood. So Elrond was on Middleearth before Gandalf. However, Gandalf was probably just chilling in the West since way before Elrond was born.

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      12 days ago

      the universe of LotR is called Eä, which means “being.” Ilúvatar is not in Eä, he observes it from outside, in the Timeless Halls where all the Ainur originally lived before creating Eä. all of the Ainur who entered Eä did so together at the beginning of time, and cannot leave until the end of time (except for Morgoth, who was banished to the Outer Void). so Gandalf wasn’t hanging out with Ilúvatar, but he was in Valinor until about 1000 years after the events described by Elrond

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      12 days ago

      What part of “a wizard is never late” did you not understand, Frodo?! /s