• Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    Well, how can it be a scam if they keep you?

    We are getting better and better at cryopreservation and thawing all the time. It’s a young technology, like cancer treatment was a hundred years ago.

    As for the whole “egoistic” part, wouldn’t you try to escape death by taking your cancer medicine?

    And desperate? For wanting to live?

    All those takes are completely wild to me. I mean nobody is forcing anyone to do it, and if you don’t, well you get buried or cremated, what’s the big deal?

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      8 days ago

      There *is* no big deal going on there, AFAIK. People have been coping with existential dread for millennia, and at this point it would be weird to expect otherwise.

      My points mainly involve the fact that historically, cryo-preservation doesn’t work as intended, however much improved it might be at this point. Also, there’s the inevitable subtext that in a civilisation racing towards collapse, the idea that you’re going to miraculously defy all odds, somehow coming back to live happier days someplace seems borderline-hilarious to me.

      More probable as I see it is building yourself a rocket ship and settling on luna, where you’ll enjoy feasts of moon-cheese for the rest of your days. 🙂

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        7 days ago

        Yeah I get it, nicely put too.

        I’m much less a doomer myself and we’re potentially on the cusp of super longevity and more (yay bunker cheeze after the nuclear war for centuries 😉).

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          7 days ago

          For the record, I don’t claim to be a doomer in the slightest, just someone who seeks to understand the trajectories of late-stage capitalism and global climate change. But yeah, as you say, science is always coming up with exciting new breakthroughs and such.

          Btw, are you the major Moebius appreciator from a couple years ago?

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            6 days ago

            Note taken! When I think about the doomer attitude, I really feel it depresses people. I’m more of an optimistic mind, or if all goes to hell, yeah let’s have cheese and party!

            And yeah that’s me, I had a hard time (found out I’m allergic to nuts, but before that I was crazy tired for years, on and off, and that had some impact on my life to say the least) but since the start of the summer I’m back (burning in the french heat waves 🥵) ! I also picked up painting so I’m more of a Renoir guy than Moebuys dud nowadays I guess. Giraud still rocks though 😋!

            You did a Tintin spin off right? Angered some anti-AI luddites IIRC, what are you up to now?

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              6 days ago

              I really feel it depresses people.

              Yeah, I feel that. Life is short, and I don’t see the point in being gloomy if one can possibly help it.

              I also picked up painting

              Oh, nice. I do remember you sharing some art samples a couple years ago.

              You did a Tintin spin off right?

              Haha, I did that once and only once, when I was discovering the possibilities of ChatGPT. I learned a lesson about sharing, but I do still use GPT all the time as an information / lookup assistant.

              Anyway, I’m still curating EGN. Still going strong after 3+yrs…
              https://piefed.social/c/eurographicnovels

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      8 days ago

      Just because we are getting better at something doesn’t mean if we did it incorrectly in the past it suddenly becomes better.

      None of these bodies were frozen in a way that matches modern techniques. No matter how advanced we become we can’t fix that.

      It’s like if you had a washing machine from 30 years ago and said it uses less electricity now because washing machine technology has advanced so much

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        7 days ago

        It’s more like you have a huge pile of copper and electricity just had been invented IMO. It sure will work one day, that’s a certainty, why not take the chance, if you can?

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      8 days ago

      Listen, I don’t have a lot of fancy technology, but I do have a chest freezer that I haven’t used in a few years. If you want to give me $3,000, I can leave your body in there for, like, five years or whatever. DM me.

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          7 days ago

          Why the hostility? I’m being up front with my offer and I’m not guaranteeing I can make you live forever or anything. It is possible, but unlikely, that an important breakthrough might happen in those five years; sure, it might not be the MOST advanced tech, but it IS at an affordable price point after the point you need to buy anything else.

          But, fine man, if you just want to be dead with absolutely ZERO chance of being revivified and cured of whatever killed you, that’s a personal decision.