cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/9508585
Trump speaks at GOP midterm convention in Dallas
Trump claims he will send $5,000 to every citizen if Republicans hold on to control of Congress
Trump has claimed he will send every citizen $5,000 if Republicans retain control of the US House and Senate. He provided no details about where he would source this money from or the legality of the incentive.
“So if the Republicans win, you win with us … it will be called the Trump dividend,” the president said.
Theres a lot going on and Trump lies 21 times a day on average, lets not propogate his lies further.
He’s the President of the United States, what he says and does matters and should be reported by the news. If no one ever bothered to report on the insane things he says and does, how would anyone know about them?
He says and does a lot of shit that we don’t repeat every day, why choose this statement if not to intentionally mislead others?
Not trying to be snarky but, how do you know?
Second, I’m not sure what is misleading. Trump really did blurt out a bribe for voting Republican, it seems, which is one of the two named Impeachable Offenses in the US constitution. Seems newsworthy to me.
Because I have other sources of news than just the fediverse and there are people whose full-time jobs is tracking his 21 lies a day average.
Trump did not blurt out a bribe because Trump would never, ever, pay it out. But idiots won’t know that.
By people whose full-time job is tracking his lies, you mean journalists? This is a story from the guardian and was presumably written by journalists. Not sure what you mean by sources outside the fediverse. I feel like I’m missing a thread in this conversation.
Second thing: It is a bribe by US federal laws, which usually cover the promise of an exchange as well as the actual exchange, c.f. 18 U.S. Code § 210 - Offer to procure appointive public office:
“Bribery” is also commonly understood to start at the offer, not at the consummation of the deal, at least in my experience. I don’t know how common that is in different US states, or if it’s that way outside the US.
Beside that, impeachable offenses don’t have to be crimes defined by US law, whether a given offense is impeachable is solely in the hands of congress. I actually think this is a good thing to try an impeachment over, it’s a blatant offer of a quid pro quo and Trump is getting so unpopular that Republicans might be willing to finally ditch him and pretend they never knew the guy. Who knows though, I’ve been half-expecting the Republican party to drop Trump and get a new standard bearer for six years now, and they keep not doing it, so clearly I don’t have an accurate read of the situation.
By that logic the pandemic stimulus checks were a bribe and so was the undelivered promise of DOGE checks and surplus checks he made previously this term.
But, back to reality, promising an indiscriminate federal policy if reelected is not a bribe.
The problem with it is he’s a fucking liar. And you’re a fucking liar for trying to deligitimize that stance with absurd fallacious statements.
I’m not trying to delegitimize anything. He is a liar, and obviously the checks are another lie. The Covid stimulus checks and the DOGE checks weren’t part of a quid pro quo. This time he said “If the Republicans win, you win with us and you get $5,000”. The fact that he’s bribing the entire population at once doesn’t make it not a bribe.
There can be two problems at once. Yeah, it’s a lie. It’s also a bribe. One of those is an impeachable offense.
Also you’re being a dick.
they are a blue maga, once you disagree with them once you are a liar/maga/bot, etc. zero self awareness
Demanding media do a 24/7 news silence on the guy wont make you win the election you know, you already tried that in 2024, how about you call him out on his bullshit instead? instead of wasting time on something coporate and indie media wont do, especially in this small internet forum
Nah fuck you, theres a choice in what to post and repost and you chose a harmful headline if nothing else.
its what he said, what else would a headline say?, being a pro-democratic party version of maga wont ensure your win again him either, also a “harmfull” headline like i write for the guardian
What he said is harmful
Telling lies is harmful
How is that not obvious?
you know whats more harmful?
not reporting on a lie, so that it keep getting repeated, with no counter.
YOU
ARE THE ONE
REPEATING IT
the fact that you think reporting is repeating something in support of it shows how little you care about journalism or the truth, no wonder trump won 2 elections with people like you as opposition, literally treating the guy like he is “he who shouldnt be name” and giving him all the space and time he needs to keep spouting his bs and convincing people to vote for him