I am fairly certain that Stephen King was molested as a child, it’s a recurring theme in his work in a way that seems less like an attempt to depict a general/universal fear and way more like he’s just working through his own trauma. IT isn’t even the best example, he’s got a short story called The Library Policeman that is not subtle about it at all. Incedentally, I first read that short story in elementary school, worked better as a stranger danger warning than anything else.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug…
Washed down with some Listerine according to his On Writing autobio
Hey now, let’s be clear. Stephen King did not have the clown defeated by a bunch of outcast youths gangbanging in a sewer. That’s just patently incorrect. Every single part. No, he had the ancient terror disguised as a clown temporarily banished by summoning an ancient turtle from the dawn of time and engaging It in a battle of wills. Completely different and, in fact, perfectly reasonable. Anyone that’s actually read the book knows the outcast youth sewer gangbang happens after that and actually has no bearing on the plot whatsoever. Stephen King’s not some freak writing a book where the entire plot hinges on a bunch of traumatized kids screwing each other to save the world, no; he’s a perfectly normal guy writing about a bunch of traumatized kids screwing each other for no reason at all. Bet you feel real silly now, huh?
What the fuck are you on about? Nothing you said is remotely true, this is a gross misinterpretation of the events depicted in the book.
It’s not a gangbang, it’s a train. They go one after the other.
I thought that in order to be a train they should be connected to each other.
That’s a centipede
There is an old painting about this. Tho they are adults.
(Tuhfet Ul-Mulk by Shayk Al-misri, 1773)
(This is illustrated version of the Turkish translation from 1400s and there is an older, Arabic version from 1300s according to carbon-dating)
And this was the stuff he got published. I’d dread to read his drafts and unreleased material from that era.
I remember it being for the need to destroy their innocence or something
It was actually closer to needing to restore the power of friendship
Couldn’t they just like… go minigolfing or something?
Was there not some time traveling component? Like their future selves had to find each other again and come back ti their childhoods. I thought that was what made the “children having sex” part not as triggering as it sounds,because they were actually adults. Mind you, it’s been years since I read the book. I might be misremembering things.
So … adult-minds having sex with children’s bodies?
That makes it worse!
“They’re actually 900 years old” or something
Sounds like sense8 but your kid self hitches a ride or something. What the what Stephen
Is this a copypasta
not currently
My ex went on to get a PhD in English with Stephen king as a specific area of interest and I’m glad I don’t know exactly the email to send what you said, well it would be super awkward and probably misunderstood
I went into IT with an open mind and was prepared for that scene. Kept thinking that it probably made a lot of sense since many King fans had said it had a very beautiful reason behind it.
Then I get to it. And it’s just stupid. Genuinely stupid.
The kids are scared of forgetting each other, because that is the power of IT. It makes people forget as they grow up.
So they want to do something meaningful to remember each other. And Bev is like: y’all can fuck me.
And I am over here like: how are the boys supposed to remember each other if they only fuck you? If that scene was supposed to make a lick of sense, the kids would have an orgy with each other and not just the boys lining up to have sex with one girl.
I can go along with weird and uncomfortable ideas in books if they make sense. In this case, it made no sense. But people either seem to defend it because they just go along with the premise or they defend King because he was high or some shit.
I’m not defending bad storytelling. IT has a lot of cool concepts in it and no one can write about small communities like King can, but I’m not gonna pretend like the kids having sex is some clever narrative device. It’s very, very stupid.
I also think the Turtle is goofy af.
Tbh if my first time was a train of my bros all with the same chick, i’d probably remember them for a very long time even without a proper orgy. Though i’d probably remember them all for helping to defeat an eldritch sewer fiend anyways.
Still sounds like a stupid thing to put in a horror story about teenagers though…
What makes it bad is they’re not teenagers. They’re 11 year olds.
“How could we remeber each other forever?”
“Oh I know, lets all do a childhood trauma!”
😑 i thought they were like 14 or something…it makes even less sense now
It would have been so easy to just not write that part. Or her character like that at all tbh
It might have been easy for you or I, for King it was an insurmountable struggle
Don’t get it
There is a scene in the book “It” where the only girl in the friend group decides to have sex with all the others to bring them back together. Down in the sewers.
Also, this friend group is all children. Not teenages of age, or even teenagers of questionable age, children.
The book has child porn in it. A group fuck where they all fuck the girl.
Not joking.
Describing it as porn is wildly inaccurate, it’s not particularly detailed or explicit and it’s not written in a way that even comes close to being erotic
Today I learned everyone with a copy of the book ‘It’ is in possession of CSAM, and amazon and Barnes and noble are actively and criminally distributing the same material.
Words have meaning.
At least in the US, I’m not sure if purely textual would ever be illegal. You could likely get away with a visual depiction of the scence with current law.
The fuck who read that shit Stephen is disgusting
It’s a weird and completely unnecessary scene narratively speaking but it’s not even close to porn. It’s one of many similar examples in King’s writing, seems like the guy was molested as a kid and tried working through it with his writing
He was extremely coked out of his mind during those years.
Famously has no memory of writing Tommy Knockers
Probably just wrote up his dreams LOL
I think a lot of people never saw it coming. He was on a lot of drugs at the time.
That said, in every single book he wrote, he has very elaborate scenes where a person urinates themselves. Every. Single. Book.
I think he actually avoided that in The Stand by having Harold cum on himself.
I’m certain someone did. At least he came on himself and not in a middle school child.
On the one hand, I kinda get the logic. On the other, Stephen no, wtf.
You get the logic… of… peeing or the middle school gang bang to defeat a monster?
The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way?
Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time
Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts.
I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it.
Why do people love this guy
His early work was exceptionally good. Tommy knockers, Needful Things, Salem’s Lot, Misery, Stand By Me, were all pretty good. Not a fan of some of his latest stuff.
Didn’t forget Shawshank redemption.
I think his latest stuff is pretty good. The Mr. Mercedes and Holly series are an interesting take on a detective series, IMO.
The Four Seasons one is my favorite. Except for the Winter story.
I don’t know. His books aren’t that great. His movie adaptations are just okay.
He has some early work that was good and got a lot of attention. It was back in the prime days of horror novels. Right place right time. That’s all.
With the right amount of cocaine I think you or I could probably give him a run for his money
His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I’ve seen are pretty bad though.
I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It’s very different from his other books though.
Is using cocaine the writing equivalent of the programmer’s Ballmer Peak?
I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced.
However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books.
I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow”
read the book and tell us if it’s any good? if you’re morally opposed to reading some book because of a fictional scene that disgusts you then stick to childrens books
It’s not. evil asshole
you think IT is non-fiction?
Let’s put it this way, enough people read IT that IT got three movies and a TV series.
The kids defeated the clown by fucking
No they celebrated defeating the clown by fucking.
