Yes, I am aware how ironic it is to post this on Lemmy.
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I feel like I’ve been caught by the hyperbole here, but there are discord alternatives with all those features.
Matrix using the sable client is I think the smoothest alternative so far. It’s not owned by some shitty corporation, you can self host it or use one of the many existing instances, you can do voice chat and screen sharing, it’s easy to add custom emojis and stickers.
Unlike most other alternatives it’s federated which I think is crucial to actually scaling with more users and being resistant to abuse by a single host.
Yeah I’m not sure why many are saying matrix is bad. My friends and I have been using it for months now and its been great. Granted, its only 4 of us. A large 20 person server may not fare as well.
one thing to bear in mind with this stuff is always the fact that some people will have tried it previously when it was less mature, and they just assume it still sucks
But in reality 6 months can be the difference between “barely functional” and “almost at parity with the status quo”
It’s buggy, doesn’t properly support screen sharing, doesn’t properly support voice calls, and all the available clients are hit or miss over which features they have. I personally think it’s harder to switch over from Discord to Matrix than from Reddit to Lemmy. Matrix sucks, but that’s probably because it’s built for businesses organizations to use, not common users like us. For that reason, I still think we need a real replacement to Discord built to be federated from the beginning.
Screen share and voice work perfectly on element x and commet. Why is yours not working?
For anyone interested: such alternatives are, for example, Fluxer (easier) or I think Stoat (more control as of now).
Screen sharing support has been added to Stoat but it’s disabled on the main server so you have to self host to use it, but self hosting Stoat is a pain because the main instance is hardcoded into the clients, so you have to edit their source code and recompile them. There are also no notification sounds for some reason.
I still use it though. Much better than having all my data sold. It would also be nice if they could add a Signal-like donation system where you donate some minuscule amount of money monthly and get a small badge to indicate your support. Something as simple as that motivates people to donate, no need for paywalling the most basic stuff like Fluxer and Discord.
TBF fluxer doesn’t paywall anything if you host it yourself (since you’re obviously not tied to their infrastructure)
Fluxer is not federated though. If you plan on only interacting with your friends who were willing to join your instance that’s an alright solution, but if you want to interact with other people on other servers then you’re going to need to use their main instance.
“It’s very simple… I want control over my life and a fresh hope for humanity, but if you suggest I tolerate even the TINIEST quantum of inconvenience in the process I will complain and mock until I feel better for betraying all my professed values. What, pay people for improving the thing someone already generously built for free? Why should I do that?”
I mean sometimes it’s ‘let me suggest this foss alternative that doesn’t actually do what you need it to do’ and then getting mad that the user doesn’t want to use a program that doesn’t do what they need it to.
but this just seems like a made up scenario? Yeah sure it was true like a year ago, but at this point the alternatives are missing like one feature each…
I don’t know about you, but whenever I ask for recommendations on the Internet I always get at least some responses from people who didn’t bother to read my requirements and are just pushing their favorite regardless of how well it fits. That’s like a universal constant of the Internet.
Literally exactly how I sounded begging my friends to go to Fluxer with me. But like, I don’t know what else to do. 😭
complain about every tiny inconvenience caused by discord. all the time. do a lot of cursing while using it.
I don’t know what else to do
Suck it up and mail copies of all your data directly to Mark Zuckerberg I guess.
so I moved to Lemmy because of the api changes… but there’s no bots on Lemmy either…?
There are a few that import Reddit posts, but there are also settings to block bots; maybe yours is set to on? But I don’t ever see bots in the comments, which is fine with me.
No financial incentive for it lol
I’m sure .ml is loaded with bots. I’m currently chatting with a person who thinks Russia is a brilliant strategist for selling oil at a steep discount.
I’m sure .ml is loaded with bots. I’m currently chatting with a person who thinks Russia is a brilliant strategist for selling oil at a steep discount.
Let’s just all go back to mIRC please
[Insert obligatory grumpy stares from ircII/irssi/whatever-real-IRC-client users when they hear a Windows 95 user referring to the whole service as “mIRC”]
