That entire narrative was made up from whole cloth
Edit: not to mention: do you genuinely, honestly think that the entirety of The West is just ravening wolves at the gates of Noble Russia? Like… are you fucking serious? There is no provocation originating outside of the Russian sphere.
Nobody else in the world right now is lobbing IRBMs and hypersonic ALBMs at civilian powerplants and residential high-rises besides Russia and Israel, and Ukraine is not Israel. What “The West” is doing is purely a series of strategically defensive moves, originally designed to dissuade Russia from doing what they’re doing, and now, designed to exact a dire economic price for such blatant military adventurism. Get the fuck off of your high horse.
So the official petition from Crimea asking for Russian intervention was invented? The war in the Donbass that killed thousands of civilians between 2014 and 2022 was invented? Sure and the sky is green and the earth is flat. /s
First off NATOpedia is not a source and is largely dogshit on anything outside of direct scientific fact. The literal first reference on the reference tab is Radio Free Europe 🤣 politely fuck off 🤣 .
This dogshit article also doesn’t say anything about the petition for intervention or the Donbass. Honestly even if it wasn’t the dogshit it is, it would be tangential to the points at hand anyway.
not to mention: do you genuinely, honestly think that the entirety of The West is just ravening wolves at the gates of Noble Russia? Like… are you fucking serious? There is no provocation originating outside of the Russian sphere.
Nice strawman fuckhead. What they are are is imperialist bastards who don’t give a fuck about human life so long as there goals are furthered, see funding the genocide in Gaza, destruction of Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, see the banana republics, support for leaders like Pinochet or operation gladio.
Russia is not some noble country that’s more liberal fucking nonsense. Russia is acting in self interest (as all countries do) doesn’t make the outcome of stopping the ethnic cleansing suddenly bad or equivalent to the coup that put the banderites in power.
Nobody else in the world right now is lobbing IRBMs and hypersonic ALBMs at civilian powerplants
Maybe but Ukraine is the one striking oil refineries and schools I don’t see how the weapon used in Russian retaliation makes it worse.
Ukraine is not Israel
Zelensky disagrees. Also ridiculous less than a week after a Ukrainian strike on a school.
What “The West” is doing is purely a series of strategically defensive moves, originally designed to dissuade Russia from doing what they’re doing, and now, designed to exact a dire economic price for such blatant military adventurism. Get the fuck off of your high horse.
No what the west did is coup a largely neutral government because it wasn’t russophobic enough and replaced it with one that lionized nazi collaborator stepan Bandera as this was a worth it tradeoff in their eyes for them to be pro EU and NATO. They weren’t trying to dissuade anything everyone knew what was to come after they did this but the price was worth it in their eyes. So how about you stop prostrating before “the good guys” and start looking at what is a complex war as what it is a complex event with numerous competing interests as opposed to “the orcs” and the small bean Nazis who really never did anything wrong and if they did it’s all just Russian talking points.
Who invaded Ukraine
So Russia should have ignored the petitions for intervention from the people of Crimea and the Donbass and just left them to be ethnically cleansed?
That entire narrative was made up from whole cloth
Edit: not to mention: do you genuinely, honestly think that the entirety of The West is just ravening wolves at the gates of Noble Russia? Like… are you fucking serious? There is no provocation originating outside of the Russian sphere.
Nobody else in the world right now is lobbing IRBMs and hypersonic ALBMs at civilian powerplants and residential high-rises besides Russia and Israel, and Ukraine is not Israel. What “The West” is doing is purely a series of strategically defensive moves, originally designed to dissuade Russia from doing what they’re doing, and now, designed to exact a dire economic price for such blatant military adventurism. Get the fuck off of your high horse.
So the official petition from Crimea asking for Russian intervention was invented? The war in the Donbass that killed thousands of civilians between 2014 and 2022 was invented? Sure and the sky is green and the earth is flat. /s
My guy there is a whole fucking Wikipedia article about this
First off NATOpedia is not a source and is largely dogshit on anything outside of direct scientific fact. The literal first reference on the reference tab is Radio Free Europe 🤣 politely fuck off 🤣 .
This dogshit article also doesn’t say anything about the petition for intervention or the Donbass. Honestly even if it wasn’t the dogshit it is, it would be tangential to the points at hand anyway.
the freedom of information at proves that wikipedia is misinformation; stop using them.
seriously, not even grade school are allowed to cite wikipedia anymore because of all the misinformation.
the american gov’t has admitted to it in writing and you’re refusing to accept it because it doesn’t fit in with your world view.
you’re no better than maga.
Nice strawman fuckhead. What they are are is imperialist bastards who don’t give a fuck about human life so long as there goals are furthered, see funding the genocide in Gaza, destruction of Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, see the banana republics, support for leaders like Pinochet or operation gladio.
Russia is not some noble country that’s more liberal fucking nonsense. Russia is acting in self interest (as all countries do) doesn’t make the outcome of stopping the ethnic cleansing suddenly bad or equivalent to the coup that put the banderites in power.
Maybe but Ukraine is the one striking oil refineries and schools I don’t see how the weapon used in Russian retaliation makes it worse.
Zelensky disagrees. Also ridiculous less than a week after a Ukrainian strike on a school.
No what the west did is coup a largely neutral government because it wasn’t russophobic enough and replaced it with one that lionized nazi collaborator stepan Bandera as this was a worth it tradeoff in their eyes for them to be pro EU and NATO. They weren’t trying to dissuade anything everyone knew what was to come after they did this but the price was worth it in their eyes. So how about you stop prostrating before “the good guys” and start looking at what is a complex war as what it is a complex event with numerous competing interests as opposed to “the orcs” and the small bean Nazis who really never did anything wrong and if they did it’s all just Russian talking points.
Who bombed the Donbas
who started ethnically cleansing their own people?
That is not a real thing that happened
Liberals love genocide denial for political convenience